Forget. spreading the idea is a good start. why does italy have so many coops? marcora law would helpWhat is your plan to make that happen?
Forget. spreading the idea is a good start. why does italy have so many coops? marcora law would helpWhat is your plan to make that happen?
No. this biz model more likely to succeed vs capitalismUPS would be out of business by next week if that happened.
Govt invented internet. they also invented computer tech in part. ur welcomeYou beef with capitalism is nonsensical. The fact you can communicate your anti-capitalist messages on a device called a computer (or phone) only exists because of capitalism. The seat you're sitting on only exists because of capitalism. And of course every last thing you own and eat is do to it.
Forget. spreading the idea is a good start. why does italy have so many coops? marcora law would help
I thought Al Gore invented the internet?Govt invented internet. they also invented computer tech in part. ur welcome
Govt invented internet. they also invented computer tech in part. ur welcome
Gee, thanks DaveBecause it seems so wrong to leave you guys without my wisdom.
Govt is centralized and not that democratic but it doesnt have to be.It's weird that you are identifying with institutions of centrally concentrated power, since you oppose concentrated power. You also believe a lot of information coming from government institutions you acknowledge are corrupt.
Al gore had 8 years to do something about global warmingI thought Al Gore invented the internet?
Marcora law is one reason. not sure the others. think cia and brits came in after ww2 to bust it upWhy does Italy have so many co-ops? Did employees seize corporations? Or did they just start co-ops?
Govt is centralized and not that democratic but it doesnt have to be.
Govt doesnt have to be centralized. nor does the economy. Dont u have conflicting views on capitalism?But your posts make it sound like you approve of centralized power in government, while calling for decentralization. You understand that you're sending mixed messages, don't you?
Govt doesnt have to be centralized. nor does the economy. Dont u have conflicting views on capitalism?
Capitalism also centralizes powerNope. You just think corporations are capitalism, that's why you think my views are conflicting.
Capitalism also centralizes power
No one i listen to says coops are capitalistic although they can have some of the bad traits like pollution. we disagree on defsPeople centralize power. The real danger is when the private sector and the government collude to centralize power.
The co-ops in Italy, btw, are still capitalistic. They require a minimum buy in (investment) for each owner/employee. But the government offers services to help make the employee buy out process more streamlined and accessible. The US has small business development services, which is similar. I have never had an issue with co-ops, other than I don't think they are generally as efficient as corporate structure, but corporate structure has its drawbacks, so loss of efficiency may be a reasonable trade off. Co-ops just aren't the same thing as socialism.
Then no one you listen to knows what capitalism is.No one i listen to says coops are capitalistic although they can have some of the bad traits like pollution. we disagree on defs
Literally everything you said is wrongYou beef with capitalism is nonsensical. The fact you can communicate your anti-capitalist messages on a device called a computer (or phone) only exists because of capitalism. The seat you're sitting on only exists because of capitalism. And of course every last thing you own and eat is do to it.
Or theyre all right...Then no one you listen to knows what capitalism is.
Or theyre all right...