22.4 Hypothetical

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Sissy Brown Short Shorts, Oct 8, 2018.

  1. Sissy Brown Short Shorts

    Sissy Brown Short Shorts Active Member

    I’m sure it’s been covered before, but the contract language is hard to follow. If you’re making more than what a 22.4 driver makes as a cover in progression or a full timer will you be getting a pay cut to the lower 22.4 rate or are you grandfathered in at your current rate?
  2. fattybrown

    fattybrown Member

    Grandfathered to current rate
  3. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Wait.. why would you become a 22.4 if you're already a driver? I don't know your supplement so I'm confused.
  4. gman042

    gman042 Been around the block a few times

    I am considering bidding to a 22.4
    It’s the only way I’m getting overtime
    Besides, I feel the need to be excessively abused
  5. Work more hours for less money?

    I believe this plan will backfire on the company
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  6. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    If you bid a different position I would assume it would be just like bidding a 22.3 position we would drop down to that rate.
  7. fattybrown

    fattybrown Member

    Don’t get on the 9.5 list. I’m sure they would love to load you up.
  8. silenze

    silenze Lunch is the best part of the day

    Its not exactly clear how ups intends to interpret this language
  9. Oh you can bet it will interpret to there advantage
  10. Mooseknuckle

    Mooseknuckle Active Member

    You're supposed to be red circled at your current rate until the progression rate exceeds that. To stay a cover will hurt you I believe because they're now limited to 156 punches per year. and you can bet you'll get as much of those as you can at peak.
  11. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    That's southwest language. I don't think he is in our supplement. I think he is a FT driver in progression. Some areas call our utility drivers, cover drivers.
  12. Sissy Brown Short Shorts

    Sissy Brown Short Shorts Active Member

    Central Pennsylvania. Part time cover one year shy of top rate
  13. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    How much do you exactly top out at?
  14. Sissy Brown Short Shorts

    Sissy Brown Short Shorts Active Member

    34$ and some change.
  15. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    To be honest this is a question for your BA.

    Though I will say I doubt you keep your rate because it is higher then the top rate of 22.4. If they do by chance let you keep it they will probably not give you the GWI every year.

    The reason I don't see them letting you keep it is because everyone would go cover before 22.4 so that they always made more then the position allows.

    Of course I could be wrong so call your local.
  16. Sissy Brown Short Shorts

    Sissy Brown Short Shorts Active Member

    I have no faith in my local or stewards I could ask them what day it is and they wouldn’t know what to tell me. I’ll just have to wait and see
  17. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Well the problem is I don't see any language in your new sup about 22.4s at all.

    The good thing is it was voted down so hopefully your negotiating team does something about that.
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  19. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Is this central Pennsylvania language?
  20. The Real Jack RyanMI6

    The Real Jack RyanMI6 Active Member

    Wow dude seriously, read something like a contract. 22.4s dont have rights ti a 9.5 list.
    So lets be just a little bit clear
    If you become a 22.4 there is no 9.5 list for you to get on