Ashli Babbitts Death ruled a homicide

newfie

Well-Known Member
That was the Senate Chamber.

Now if the rioters had tried to enter the House Chamber, they likely would have been shot just like Babbitt
not sure if you noticed but there were people that did so. One got his photo op sitting at the speakers desk. One stole her podium. No one attacked any congress person , no one else was shot.

Truth be told they walked in through the front doors opened by the capital police .many were escorted through by capital police. If it was a riot then it was a piss poor one. The blm activist that was there with them should have given them some training on how to do a proper riot.
 

Box Ox

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not sure if you noticed but there were people that did so. One got his photo op sitting at the speakers desk. One stole her podium.

Neither of those things were inside the House Chamber.

No one attacked any congress person , no one else was shot.

Right. Most of the idiot seditionists were just smart enough to not try and get past the people with guns or the locked doors that were protecting members of Congress.
 

newfie

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Neither of those things were inside the House Chamber.



Right. Most of the idiot seditionists were just smart enough to not try and get past the people with guns or the locked doors that were protecting members of Congress.
see the problem is you try to use descriptive language to justify murder. That woman was not a threat to any of the police officers outside that hallway. she was not a threat to any of the police officers she walked by getting to that window she crawled through.
One unnamed police officer decided he was justified to shoot her when she was in the act of tresspassing. Now I may be fine with your argrument if the decision and the officer, the decision he made and the orders he was acting under were all transparently revealed.

I'm sure i could have simply stepped over to that window , pointed that gun between her eyes and informed her why her decision to enter would be a poor one without her advancing any further.
If she was visibly brandishing a weapon then that obviously would not have been smart on my part to do so. Since she was not brandishing a weapon of any type arguing that she may have had a weapon and shooting her is in fact a cold premeditated act of murder.
Its a tough decision police officers, real police officers are trained to make every day and handle correctly 99.9 percent of the time.
This unnamed protected officer was clearly not trained to make that decision correctly.
The fact remains you keep calling this sedition when in fact it was nothing more then a bunch of outraged taxpayers and voters raising some hell.
If congress was so terrified maybe they should have done a complete investigation and either proved or debunked the election fraud issues.
Or country was founded on average citizens getting pissed off when they get screwed over by the elites and rebelled.
This murder of a patriot shows the arrogance of the elites that they think they are justified in murdering an unarmed patriot.
 

oldngray

nowhere special
not sure if you noticed but there were people that did so. One got his photo op sitting at the speakers desk. One stole her podium. No one attacked any congress person , no one else was shot.

Truth be told they walked in through the front doors opened by the capital police .many were escorted through by capital police. If it was a riot then it was a piss poor one. The blm activist that was there with them should have given them some training on how to do a proper riot.
The BLM activist that broke the window that she was later shot climbing through?

If I had a suspicious mature I might even suspect something odd about that.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
She interpreted it differently, and paid with her life.
not necessarily. It was never proven she did anymore than "tresspass" inside the capital.
some of us taxpayers will argue this building belongs to us and that we paid for and are paying for that building , in her case she also paid for it by defending it in the military.
Is it really tresspassing if a tax paying citizen walks around in their building?
 

It will be fine

Well-Known Member
not necessarily. It was never proven she did anymore than "tresspass" inside the capital.
some of us taxpayers will argue this building belongs to us and that we paid for and are paying for that building , in her case she also paid for it by defending it in the military.
Is it really tresspassing if a tax paying citizen walks around in their building?
Yes. That argument is only appealing to simpletons. You can’t freely walk through tax payer funded military bases either.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
@newfie

Do you think its possible that trump worded "be there, will be wild" the way he did because its enough to excite the radicals but vague enough to appear innocent?
We just went through 4 years of democratic leadership telling democrats to attack trump supporters. words that Antifa was more than happy to act on. It will be wild has to be the absolute tamest thing any politician has said in that time.
Trump wanted a loud crowd putting pressure on congress . He probably realized its possible that some might misbehave and told them to go there and protest peacefully. I dont think he wanted anyone to get hurt but I'm sure he wanted them to make a lot of noise.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
Yes. That argument is only appealing to simpletons. You can’t freely walk through tax payer funded military bases either.
no outrage over the many democrats that have invaded state capitals sweetie pie?

I dont know if I would have realized i was tresspassing into the capital if i walked through open doors and was allowed to do so by the police standing there. I would have known not to go through a broken window but not known that doing so allowed someone to shoot me for it.
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
Yes. That argument is only appealing to simpletons. You can’t freely walk through tax payer funded military bases either.
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It will be fine

Well-Known Member
no outrage over the many democrats that have invaded state capitals sweetie pie?

I dont know if I would have realized i was tresspassing into the capital if i walked through open doors and was allowed to do so by the police standing there. I would have known not to go through a broken window but not known that doing so allowed someone to shoot me for it.
Whatabout herp derp.
 

Tom MacDonald

Max E. Pads
not necessarily. It was never proven she did anymore than "tresspass" inside the capital.
some of us taxpayers will argue this building belongs to us and that we paid for and are paying for that building , in her case she also paid for it by defending it in the military.
Is it really tresspassing if a tax paying citizen walks around in their building?
No not at all. She should have been allowed to be there. I'm really not mad at her and I'm proud of her for being unarmed.

I just know emotions were high and trump asked his supporters to be there. She was wearing a trump flag. It's hard to pin the blame correctly there are so many factors to consider, but she wouldnt have there if trump didnt do what he did.
 

Tom MacDonald

Max E. Pads
We just went through 4 years of democratic leadership telling democrats to attack trump supporters. words that Antifa was more than happy to act on. It will be wild has to be the absolute tamest thing any politician has said in that time.
Trump wanted a loud crowd putting pressure on congress . He probably realized its possible that some might misbehave and told them to go there and protest peacefully. I dont think he wanted anyone to get hurt but I'm sure he wanted them to make a lot of noise.

There really wasnt any good that was gonna come out of it. Looking back, it's clear to me that it was a bad idea.

You are correct in everything you said though. The Democrat leadership is entirely evil.

If I am to be honest. I have seen the radicals in the online communities and "will be wild" caused a lot of buzz. I remember a lot of memes. Everybody felt like they just had their vote stolen from them. "Will be wild" was hope.
 
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