Boeing votes no to union

[BaggyPants]

Get me my Diet Coke and 2 bags of peanuts then disappear please

Diet Coke? Wouldn't you rather have some exclusive TWA Coffee, or how about TWA Tea?

 

[rod]

Diet Coke? Wouldn't you rather have some exclusive TWA Coffee, or how about TWA Tea?

I don't do either tea or coffee. I get my caffeine from a pop now and then.

 

[BaggyPants]

Diet Coke? Wouldn't you rather have some exclusive TWA Coffee, or how about TWA Tea?

Read it again..... @rod

I don't do either tea or coffee. I get my caffeine from a pop now and then.

Lol "pop"!

 

[rod]

Read it again.....

Lol "pop"!

Around here we say pop--I suppose you say soda or soft drink---some places just say Coke (means any kind of pop).

 

[Catatonic]

That's my point these folks had they voted for the Union would more likely get paid pretty much the same as their Washington counterparts.

That is interesting.
I would rather work in a non-Union environment as an hourly but if in management, I would rather it be Unionized.
But only if the benefits are the same or very close.
There is a $10 differential per hour although not paying Union dues and a much lower cost of living helps to ease the pain, and of course lower tax rate.

It would be interesting to see if that $10 (by a reliable analysis group) is not just about the same for the workers.

 

[Catatonic]

Around here we say pop--I suppose you say soda or soft drink---some places just say Coke (means any kind of pop).

Coke is the correct term unless it is tea.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Probably your highest paying job with the best benefits.

Without a doubt.

My previous jobs were several entry level positions before college and 8 years Air Force before coming to UPS.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Yes , but as much as you would think for what it really cost

I think there is only maybe a 50 cents different across the us, right now in Cali we make 36.03

We are at $33.62 here but that is because we voted to divert several of our split raises to our ailing pension fund.

Didn't help.

 

[Indecisi0n]

If the company is treating their employees fair there is no need for a union. However, we all know the larger the company the less likely this is to happen which is why most employees of large corporations need a union.

 

[MAKAVELI]

That is interesting.
I would rather work in a non-Union environment as an hourly but if in management, I would rather it be Unionized.
But only if the benefits are the same or very close.
There is a $10 differential per hour although not paying Union dues and a much lower cost of living helps to ease the pain, and of course lower tax rate.

It would be interesting to see if that $10 (by a reliable analysis group) is not just about the same for the workers.

Dues usually pay for themselves when considering the difference in wages and benefits. I'd rather deal with increased taxes for the opportunity to make more $, benefits and security of a union job vs a non union job.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Around here we say pop--I suppose you say soda or soft drink---some places just say Coke (means any kind of pop).

That is the correct term. Tell em Rod.

 

[Indecisi0n]

That is interesting.
I would rather work in a non-Union environment as an hourly but if in management, I would rather it be Unionized.
But only if the benefits are the same or very close.
There is a $10 differential per hour although not paying Union dues and a much lower cost of living helps to ease the pain, and of course lower tax rate.

It would be interesting to see if that $10 (by a reliable analysis group) is not just about the same for the workers.

When a manager no longer likes you or your performance and fires you then how much are you making an hour?

 

[Catatonic]

When a manager no longer likes you or your performance and fires you then how much are you making an hour?

Anybody with any sense takes care of their manager and doesn't screw around with them.
Most management I knew who came from the NE and Chicago area hated the employees who took advantage of the Union ... not the Union.
You work at UPS which is a harsh and unfriendly environment.
The Union drives a wedge between the company and the employees to strengthen their position.

I worked at 4 other companies other than UPS ... all non-union ... and they were great places to work.
Also, at UPS, I worked in a non-union environment for 20 years ... totally different company where people cared for each other. Still a place where a lot is expected of you but not like a Union workplace.

It is what it is.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

You work at UPS which is a harsh and unfriendly environment.
The Union drives a wedge between the company and the employees to strengthen their position.
I worked at 4 other companies other than UPS ... all non-union ... and they were great places to work.
Also, at UPS, I worked in a non-union environment for 20 years ... totally different company where people cared for each other. Still a place where a lot is expected of you but not like a Union workplace.

It is what it is.

Nobody cares, since we went public.

 

[Catatonic]

Nobody cares, since we went public.

You mean since the 1997 strike?
Those two seminal events are forever intertwined in the history of UPS.
We'll never know but if the 1997 strike had not occurred, UPS may have not gone public.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

You mean since the 1997 strike?
Those two seminal events are forever intertwined in the history of UPS.
We'll never know but if the 1997 strike had not occurred, UPS may have not gone public.

It's a good job but a terrible place to work. Thank God I don't have too much longer to go.

 

[rod]

You mean since the 1997 strike?
Those two seminal events are forever intertwined in the history of UPS.
We'll never know but if the 1997 strike had not occurred, UPS may have not gone public.

Going public was going to happen one way or the other at some time. There was just too much $$$$ floating around to keep greed out of it.

 

[rod]

It's a good job but a terrible place to work. Thank God I don't have too much longer to go.

I always liked the job itself. It was management who made it impossible to do it to their expectations.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I always liked the job itself. It was management who made it impossible to do to their expectations.

You have been retired for awhile now. Things are way different now. Yes they were always ignorant but people wasn't getting fired for stupid stuff. You could go tell them to friend* off in the morning, then see them at the bar after work and not talk shop.

 

[rod]

You have been retired for awhile now. Things are way different now. Yes they were always ignorant but people wasn't getting fired for stupid stuff. You could go tell them to friend* off in the morning, then see them at the bar after work and not talk shop.

I know--I'm out of touch with what goes on now. Upstate keeps me informed about that. You don't need to chime in.