Turdferguson
Just a turd
You should want to get rich in whatever you do in life. If you want to settle in life go work somewhere else and never ask for a raise. If the company prospers why shouldn't we prosper
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
This job used to entail handling an overweight a couple times a week now it's multiple times per day.
One can only prepare their body so much for wear and tear. Professional athletes are in as good a shape as you'll find and they still suffer wear and tear injuries.
So almost $36hr isn’t enough?
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Considering wages have done little more than keep up with inflation for years now I don't think anyone is expecting to get rich.
This generation of ups drivers is about as well off as the previous generation of drivers.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Ever heard of inflation?
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
5+ billion in profits isn't enough?
I'll quit expecting a raise when ups quits raising prices and expectations.
That’s unreasonable and unrealistic, I didn’t say anything about not getting a raise. I want a raise but also would like stock discount raised.
Turdferguson
Just a turd
Is the company profitable at that wage? Yes they are. This company doesn't hesitate to pay 50 plus an hour. The contract is more than just wages too. That's what you seem to be overlooking.
Harassment, excessive overtime, full-time opportunities for part-timers, Healthcare, pensions, safety standards in the buildings and on package car, and quality of life while you are working. The list of things are endless. Wages for full timers are a tiny fraction of what is in the contract
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
I think we are paid plenty. 36x.03(average inflation) 1.08. So at the end of the next contract our wage should be 40 bucks or a little more.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
I think most guys would take a pay cut or at least a pay freeze to spend more time with their family.
The issue is if the company continues to expect what they do (which they will) we should continue to be compensated as such.
Turdferguson
Just a turd
That has nothing to do with the union. That is up to the company.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
The stock discount really doesn't mean much since you have a 2 year hold before you can take advantage of it.
Even with a 10% discount there are much better investments out there.
Also as @Turdferguson pointed out it's not a contract issue.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
I must of missed that article of the contract lol
Turdferguson
Just a turd
It would be my guess that pay is the easiest thing to negotiate, it's all the other parts of the contract where the fist fights start
It’s 5% now
$50 hr? Insanity
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
I expect a 5 year contract with a 4-5 an hour raise.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Yeah I know. That's why I said even at 10% which is what I assume you want it to go back to.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Yes your OT wage.
$50 hr may seem crazy now in 20 years it won't seem so crazy.
Just like $35 an hour would of sounded crazy to the guys that started 25 years ago. Not so crazy now n
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