Ok I’ll help. Crash course! You ready?
1) Slow the friend down!
2) Stop giving a friend!
Current UPS culture
- Thread starter OrionsBitch
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1) Slow the friend down!
2) Stop giving a friend!
OrionsBitch
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Not all centers let cover drivers bid....at my center only the top 5 seniority cover drivers can bid. That means 40+ cover drivers are on a different route every day.
Hethatbeking
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Lol. Learned that at FDX. But hey you've got to understand that most guys or gals who are new to UPS have never worked at an unionized. Most have only worked at companies where management word was law so they don't realize they can say no.
Hethatbeking
Well-Known Member
Another thing "old timers" need to realize is that most folks (like 90%) who are donning the Browns for the first time having never worked a union job. They've only known work environments where anything management says goes. So when manager "A" tells the new guy that he is expected to deliver 250 stops in 10 hours with no lates or misses more often than not that new guy is going to listen and obey.
Hethatbeking
Well-Known Member
I've definitely have told new guys to pump the brakes. Take their lunches and breaks because they will be replaced faster than two clicks of a lambs tail if they're injured. But I've only been a UPSER for a little over a year so my advice doesn't carry much weight. You old heads have way more sway because you have the experience to back it up.
Brohn Bron
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40+ cover drivers?! How many bid routes are available each year? Not to challenge your knowledge of the contract, but nothing in the agreement states anything about ‘top 5 seniority cover drivers’. Management is required to put up a list of vacations for the next week, drivers who did not bid on routes in January can bid on the work. You are able to file grievance if they deny your bid or take you off a route you were the top bidder for. But there is no cash pay out for the grievance (as far as I know).
Integrity
Binge Poster
Every generation has a story to tell.Yeah with half the stops....half the weight and dimensions boxes, without the monitoring, etc. You also didn't have to deal with customers as much back then....especially before FedEx.
Also: we all know the stories of guys cutting their lawn, going to movies, playing a few holes, going swimming etc while in the clock. You can't even drive more than a mile off route or go a minute over lunch without management breathing down your neck.
Ooooo no manual steering, a higher step...biging deal. I get that that wears in your body more but some of us "younger guys" still use some of those old
When telemarics came out the caught thousands upon thousands of drivers just sitting around. Don't tell me you guys hard it harder.
Good and bad.
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Frankie's Friend
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It's definitely worse now.Yeah with half the stops....half the weight and dimensions boxes, without the monitoring, etc. You also didn't have to deal with customers as much back then....especially before FedEx.
Also: we all know the stories of guys cutting their lawn, going to movies, playing a few holes, going swimming etc while in the clock. You can't even drive more than a mile off route or go a minute over lunch without management breathing down your neck.
Ooooo no manual steering, a higher step...big
When telemarics came out the caught thousands upon thousands of drivers just sitting around. Don't tell me you guys hard it harder.
I'd love to see them put an old P10 on a metro route that has the 22" step and no power steering. Heck, you'd lose 4 stops an hour just trying to park it somewhere close to the stop.
Barely got the cart out the side door too.
Nah, it's harder now. But you've gotta be smarter and do all the methods to save your joints.
Hethatbeking
Well-Known Member
What was your average daily stop count?
Hethatbeking
Well-Known Member
Guys in the progression can't file 9.5.
No they can't. But the rest of us can and it helps keep routes in.
Hethatbeking
Well-Known Member
Ok good for the rest of you.
It really doesn't matter. If this new contract gets voted in all the new drivers will be screwed forever
.you can thank Dennis...
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Hethatbeking
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Well we have an opportunity to make things different right? If we continue to vote for contracts that
our future "brothers" then we really can't blame Dennis or the company, can we?Vote!Well we have an opportunity to make things different right? If we continue to vote for contracts that
Rack em
Made the Podium
Not true. They can get on the list, it just isn't as easy.
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Frankie's Friend
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What happened when you folks voted it down three times last time?
PT Car Washer
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No not easy, more like impossible according to our Union Local.
Run Orion
Take your lunch and breaks in between third and sixth hour per contract.
File 9.5 grievances.
Non bid drivers request 8 hour requests as often as possible.
It gives them less options to push packages if you can get your whole center on board. The hard part is talking sense to maniacs that are sick enough to stay with this company for as long as they have.
The culture is sickening. They are in the business of conforming us into thinking getting off 7pm or later is ok. Most centers are 50 drivers vs 3 supervisors. The fact they are able to divide and concor so easily and most drivers have no idea it’s happening.
Take your lunch and breaks in between third and sixth hour per contract.
File 9.5 grievances.
Non bid drivers request 8 hour requests as often as possible.
It gives them less options to push packages if you can get your whole center on board. The hard part is talking sense to maniacs that are sick enough to stay with this company for as long as they have.
The culture is sickening. They are in the business of conforming us into thinking getting off 7pm or later is ok. Most centers are 50 drivers vs 3 supervisors. The fact they are able to divide and concor so easily and most drivers have no idea it’s happening.
Old Man Jingles
Rat out of a cage
If your point is that UPS Drivers are bitches, we'll done!
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