Drivers Working Preload (“Extra Work”) But Going Home After Poll

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Overpaid Union Thug, Aug 13, 2019.

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Is it ok when a driver works preload “extra work” then uses seniority to go home as an extra driver?

Poll closed Aug 15, 2019.
  1. No. They already reported to work therefore aren’t an extra driver.

    5 vote(s)
    23.8%
  2. Yes, seniority rules.

    13 vote(s)
    61.9%
  3. It’s not a contract violation but is morally wrong. They are screwing others out of extra work.

    3 vote(s)
    14.3%
  1. Our preload is always a dumpster fire
     
  2. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    I should’ve stated more clearly that the poll was geared towards the scenario we have here in my local/supplement. Not what goes on in other supplements. I thought that the last sentence of my opening comment would’ve been more than enough to indicate that we have an extra work list.

    In my region when there are extra employees management has to go down the seniority list and ask who wants off. Drivers are coming in to work preload off of the extra work list but then are using their seniority to avoid running their routes when there’s extra drivers. This is pissing off people who actually wanted extra work and feel they are being robbed of it because of the drivers that are going home. It seems like if management really wanted to they could just treat those drivers as they would any other employee that’s already been on the clock for four or five hours and make them finish their day.

    In my opinion, whether it was a contract violation or not, it is a rather ****ed up thing to do. I would never do that to someone that genuinely wants/needs the extra money. I have no skin in the game (driving is enough for me) but I have been asked about this by drivers that I know in several buildings. I didn’t have an answer contractually. And from what I’m hearing our BA doesn’t either. So, I thought I would poll it on BC.
     
  3. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    Sounds like they are awarding extra work by seniority and awarding time off by seniority. No system is perfect but imho that's the best way to do it.
     
  4. UnconTROLLed

    UnconTROLLed perfection

    I was re-iterating, because you would think ( judging from posts in other threads from you and others) that I am in a "strong" local. :D
     
  5. UnconTROLLed

    UnconTROLLed perfection

    All part of the plan...
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  6. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    Happens all the time here. We can’t keep preloaders.
     
  7. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    That’s my opinion as well. Seems like some want their cake and want to eat it too.

    Maybe because they worked preload (supposedly as “extra work”) and are already on the clock and therefore available?
     
  8. UnconTROLLed

    UnconTROLLed perfection

    Fine but I do not see how that is any different than at ~9am. Remember that 90% of drivers offered extra work likely hit *click* at 5am
     
  9. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    They sign the sheet first. Then are called when needed. If they don’t answer then they move down the list. Sometimes they are asked the day before. I guess the logic behind the complaints about them going home is that if they’ve already agreed to work preload and are already there then they are available to work their normal shift as well.
     
  10. UnconTROLLed

    UnconTROLLed perfection

    okay but anyone with less seniority is available, too, with more DOT hours going for them. On their normal shift.
     
  11. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    The drivers that are getting allot of time on preload end up getting Friday off or a reduced dispatch that day. The ones that actually work preload and drive I mean.
     
  12. BlackCat

    BlackCat Active Member

    Why does this myth still get spread around?
     
  13. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    Myth? It’s not a myth in some supplements.
     
  14. BlackCat

    BlackCat Active Member

    When they force from the top down, give me a holler.
     
  15. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    That would never happen here. Seniority drivers get mad when they skipped and aren’t asked for time off. They would riot if the were forced though. LOL
     
  16. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    Because some of us have it in writing that voluntary time off must be offered in seniority order.
     
  17. BlackCat

    BlackCat Active Member

    You are aware that we are agreeing, correct?

    Writing or not, seniority rules.
     
  18. gman042

    gman042 Been around the block a few times

    Exactly what it says
    Not rocket surgery......
     
  19. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    The people who are unhappy are the ones who want to work preload then drive, but can't because higher seniority drivers are working preload, right? And these unhappy drivers want to force the drivers who are working preload to drive afterwards so they will stop working preload, allowing the unhappy drivers to do both?

    I would say that seniority rules, the higher seniority drivers have the right to work the preload and go home after if there are other drivers who would be sitting at home otherwise. The unhappy drivers should try to request any overtime that the lower seniority drivers would be getting while covering the preload workers' routes. Everyone would get to work as much as they want according to seniority, win-win.
     
  20. 22.34life

    22.34life Active Member

    Depends on supplement,the southern supplement seniority definitely gives u the right to go home,article 48,64.my question is why are drivers being called in to perform part time work.should be going off the part time seniority list for part time extra work.