How to Properly Leave Union?

[wilberforce15]

Sorry I can't fix stupid because people were short sited

Attention healthcare is worth a little bit more than a new Xbox right now

They're not short sighted. They see just fine.
They're 18 and they have free insurance and medical care until they're 26.
So, getting free medical care doesn't do anything for them. They already have it, and they have no reason to stay in one location, let alone with one employer.
Most don't even want that sort of career, and seeing all the miserable, bitchy full-timers doesn't exactly encourage them.
They're making rational choices.

 

[wilberforce15]

Sorry I can't fix stupid because people were short sited

Attention healthcare is worth a little bit more than a new Xbox right now

Free healthcare is worth 0. They don't use health care, not even for annual check-ups. And it's either free on parents' insurance or on medicaid or just by not paying the bill when it comes.

The xbox actually has value.

 

[upsperson]

You don't get the bonus for being the best here
I'm coming to your job the best of your building you get the rewards if you go overboard

Just take pride in your craftsmanship that's all you can do

Take pride, ha I'll sooner produce intentional double digit misloads in the building in a day, done it before. Not on my trucks but where I'm expected to 'help'. How about pay me for the work I do? That's in addition to the more than everyone else in the building preload spot. On top of that because I don't just sit on my phone I get asked to do more.

There's no consequences, I could literally not work and be paid the same. Thanks union, you've insured quality work and hard workers. The whole being unfirable in a job people often leave their first day, that's a gray idea.

 

[wilberforce15]

Who do you think is on their parents insurance at ups? I know critical thinking isn't a strong point of many ups employees, but I'm sure you'll have an answer.

You can be covered as dependent on most insurance until 26 years old.

Between that and medicaid, no, the new guys do not need or want the UPS medical insurance. It has little or no value.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

They're not short sighted. They see just fine.
They're 18 and they have free insurance and medical care until they're 26.
So, getting free medical care doesn't do anything for them. They already have it, and they have no reason to stay in one location, let alone with one employer.
Most don't even want that sort of career, and seeing all the miserable, bitchy full-timers doesn't exactly encourage them.
They're making rational choices.

Again nothing I can say

 

[wilberforce15]

Again nothing I can say

I know. The kids already have the thing you're trying to bribe them with.
They don't need or want the insurance. They are being rational.

You are offering something they already have and don't really need.

And they have no reason to even want to stay 30 years as some miserable FTer.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Take pride, ha I'll sooner produce intentional double digit misloads in the building in a day, done it before. Not on my trucks but where I'm expected to 'help'. How about pay me for the work I do? That's in addition to the more than everyone else in the building preload spot. On top of that because I don't just sit on my phone I get asked to do more.

Good luck in your career

 

[UnionStrong]

Take pride, ha I'll sooner produce intentional double digit misloads in the building in a day, done it before. Not on my trucks but where I'm expected to 'help'. How about pay me for the work I do? That's in addition to the more than everyone else in the building preload spot. On top of that because I don't just sit on my phone I get asked to do more.

There's no consequences, I could literally not work and be paid the same. Thanks union, you've insured quality work and hard workers. The whole being unfirable in a job people often leave their first day, that's a gray idea.

We get it, you don’t like the union.

 

[upsperson]

Good luck in your career

Considering management loves me and I'm literally the only one double shifting in the building at 3 years, while I'm a full bore paid union member, while out performing literally every other preloader for pieces handled AND least misloads per pieces handled, I'm sure tomorrows my last day. Maybe the drivers with 30+ years will say no they don't want me tomorrow.

 

[UnionStrong]

I fell off my bike 2 months ago for medical bills more than my annual income, a surprising number of broken bones and head trauma, 2 weeks later I was in a car crash (not at fault dude ran a stop sign right as I was leaving preload). I promise I understand the value of the medical insurance when I paid 0 out of pocket for north of 2 years worth of income in medical bills in 2 months.

Ups pays that regardless, they still need someone to driver help, but since I already work for them they have to pay my insurance. So they are electing to say an outside person, who didn't load the truck, has never loaded or delivered, that's the person who deserves 30% more pay than me. When the route I typically help on, I load, I know the addresses, I could pick out more names and tell you the address they are at more than any other preloader, that means we should have an outside helpers that makes 30% more than me.

I'm not a driver, I don't want driver pay, I'm literally just asking to be paid similar to a new hire. But many seem to think I'm asking too much. After 3 years, I probably deserve new hire pay no?

 

[UnionStrong]

Considering management loves me and I'm literally the only one double shifting in the building at 3 years, while I'm a full bore paid union member, while out performing literally every other preloader for pieces handled AND least misloads per pieces handled, I'm sure tomorrows my last day. Maybe the drivers with 30+ years will say no they don't want me tomorrow.

Good luck in your future endeavors

 

[upsperson]

Considering management loves me and I'm literally the only one double shifting in the building at 3 years, while I'm a full bore paid union member, while out performing literally every other preloader for pieces handled AND least misloads per pieces handled, I'm sure tomorrows my last day.

We get it, you don’t like the union. View attachment 408752

Incorrect. I hate the union only as a part time employee. She's great for full timers.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Considering management loves me and I'm literally the only one double shifting in the building at 3 years, while I'm a full bore paid union member, while out performing literally every other preloader for pieces handled AND least misloads per pieces handled, I'm sure tomorrows my last day. Maybe the drivers with 30+ years will say no they don't want me tomorrow.

Are the best sorter a live

 

[upsperson]

Good luck in your future endeavors

Honestly if I was twice as smart as the replies I'm getting I'd be ready for management.

 

[UnionStrong]

Incorrect. I hate the union only as a part time employee. She's great for full timers.

Management loves you, maybe that’s the problem.

 

[UnionStrong]

Honestly if I was twice as smart as the replies I'm getting I'd be ready for management.

 

[upsperson]

Are the best sorter a live

Not even, there's plenty of people I've worked with that outperform me. I'm slow. This building is awful and genuinely promotes incompetence, that's maybe why I'm more upset than anything else. If you are stupid, instead of firing you, making you quit, you get easier and easier work. If I can't handle 3 trucks I get 2, then 1, then sent to the sort isle, then unload, from unload you quit.

 

[upsperson]

There's a lot of truth to so, I definitely work harder than everyone else to my significant detriment, I know I shouldn't, working harder only means more work, not additional pay. But I hate to twiddle my thumbs. I get the ha ha he thinks he's the best loader ever, I'm not, I don't think I am. I think this particular building, 1/6 is friend---ed. I don't like how the union has this regional contract's set up, but my building here now is worse than the others. I'd say here's my building check but saying I run the most pieces means you could find me.

Management loves you, maybe that’s the problem.

 

[upsperson]

There's a lot of truth to so, I definitely work harder than everyone else to my significant detriment, I know I shouldn't, working harder only means more work, not additional pay. But I hate to twiddle my thumbs. I get the ha ha he thinks he's the best loader ever, I'm not, I don't think I am. I think this particular building, 1/6 is friend---ed. I don't like how the union has this regional contract's set up, but my building here now is worse than the others. I'd say here's my building check but saying I run the most pieces means you could find me.

Management definitely dumps all additional work to me. I'm fine with that for the most part, I'm being paid to work, I'll work, the fact other people are thumbing themselves isn't my issue. My issue again is the union saying I should be paid less than a new hire. If no one replies here shortly as genuinely as possible, I hope you have a great Thanksgiving. I definitely won't reply tomorrow but maybe the next day

 

[Commercial Inside Release]

As soon as you drop anchor, then management will make harassing you until you quit or they can fire you, their favorite pastime.