You all need to look at this site if u really want to be informed on the centeral state funds ....its breaking news ....
Jonfrum
- Thread starter area43
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Cole
Well-Known Member
Off topic for a moment, my nephew , is going into the Marines Aug 6th, and he's a good kid, but he also has a smart a_ _ smirk he keeps on his wife, so life is going to be tough for him a Paris Island real soon. Me thinks they will brake him down quick, and rebuild. 
To the thread, as far as the center manager, and account rep, they stated their opinions of where the think Jon got his info, but that sure doesn't mean it's a fact. I have noticed he hasn't posted in quite a while, possibly busy etc...
As far as being a steward, you can't be confrontational all the time, as you'll eventually have someone do something stupid that you can do little about, so you need to have a respectful relationship. I agree with Red, that you don't bring that members issues out in front of the body of members/mngmnt, as it's that individuals business, and not ours to publicize their info etc...We would raise cain if the company did it that way, and have, as that's uneccessary, and embarassing to the individual, also there may be some legal ramifications for that as well.
I still think we need to know what specific info we're talking about that brought about this thread, because obviousley it is debate worthy.
To the thread, as far as the center manager, and account rep, they stated their opinions of where the think Jon got his info, but that sure doesn't mean it's a fact. I have noticed he hasn't posted in quite a while, possibly busy etc...
As far as being a steward, you can't be confrontational all the time, as you'll eventually have someone do something stupid that you can do little about, so you need to have a respectful relationship. I agree with Red, that you don't bring that members issues out in front of the body of members/mngmnt, as it's that individuals business, and not ours to publicize their info etc...We would raise cain if the company did it that way, and have, as that's uneccessary, and embarassing to the individual, also there may be some legal ramifications for that as well.
I still think we need to know what specific info we're talking about that brought about this thread, because obviousley it is debate worthy.
Off topic for a moment, my nephew , is going into the Marines Aug 6th, and he's a good kid, but he also has a smart a_ _ smirk he keeps on his wife, so life is going to be tough for him a Paris Island real soon. Me thinks they will brake him down quick, and rebuild.
Wow, Cole what a coincidence, my nephew is now in boot camp. He went in the day after he graduated June 17 sunday. My son talked to my brother today and said he(nephew) caught pneumonia. Not good, it appears he has or has been out for a week. If thats the case he will not graduate with his original platoon. Let me explain, when I went to boot camp, you were basically assinged a platoon, now your platoon is family. Its sometimes hard to adopt so to speak one these recruits(not marines yet) into your family that have been sidelined for a reason. Folks, when your sidelined you pick up where you left off, meaning you go into another platoon. It should not be the case,but there is a ill faded attitude to the new recruit. I have so much to say on the whole matter. My nephew, was a computer game nerd kid, not to be mean, I love the kid, like your nephew Cole he has a good heart, really active in the church. The problem with my nephew is that he had very little physical activity, dont get me wrong he wasnt fat, skinny as a pole. He didnt do much exercise before he went in and now he is paying the price. It was a total shock to his system.
New paragraph, my nepew also went into the Corp for the wrong reason. Yes, he wanted to be a marine, but that wasnt the main reason, I believe in my observation that he joined for attention. Ex. Hey look, Im going into the marines type of attitude. That just wont cut it when it comes down to the wire. I could type forever, please excuse me Cole. I want to help, so I ll keep typing.
Cole, does your Nephew have his MOS(military occupational speciality). As you can see the Corp has big names for things. Why dont they just call it your "JOB" it would be so much easier. My nephew was in the delayed entry program( Poolee program), he was in ROTC in high school. His mos was infantry, like his father, but after a friend did some conviencing he changed it to "tanks", I believe. Thats sad I dont know exactly, but anyhow he changed it. I believe it was smart that he did, Reason why, it takes a special breed to be infantry(grunt). I was a combat engineer and thats basically super infantry(super grunt). I did everything the grunt did plus we specialized in explosives, bridging, small construction and land mines( I could write book on that) there is more, but that just gives you an idea.
Cole, as you can see Iam type A personality, Sammie to her credit was the first on this site to pick that out. Anyhow, Now I want to address your nephew. The advice I would give to him is start working out on a daily basis. I assume he is young and even though his boot camp is a short , short distance away he can still benefit from it . Mentally, he needs to be strong. Hes going in the last month of summer, but thats ok. I went to boot camp after my semster ended in college in May of 85. Wow it seems so long. I got out in august(boot camp) and went to work for UPS in oct of 85 pt and the rest is history.
Back to your nephew, Im sorry I get so easily side tracked. A lot of parents will put there kid in the Corp to correct a behavioral problem. There are many reasons why young people go into the Corp, History, uniforms, the mystic,see the world LOL. etc etc. They are all great. The Corp can make a person better or bitter. It all depends on the individual. Pride, your nephew seems to have a lot of it. The Corp might make that worse, its good to keep that in check. I pray that I could talk to him one on one. Talking is great, but to act on it is even greater. Cole if you have any questions on the Corp please feel free to ask.
Now, on the subject of Jon, Cole please understand I am done with this issue. I choose not to dwell on it any longer. If I had to do it over, knowing what I know now I would not have done it. Sorry, thats just how I see it. I hope that you understand . Sincerely area 43
Oh, and one other thing about Jon not posting. I believe that one Big primary reason that people dont register is paranioa. Yes, that is why in my opinion. Imagine this Cole, if you would, Jon trying to keep a low profile( your getting me started, Cole LOL) strangely enough post his name, location and job title. Ok, now Area 43 starts a thread titled with his name. As of now it has 63 posts and 1284 views. That could blow your mind. It might even stop you from posting. Anyhow, I know that rumors are running wild on the bc site. Ex. is he fired or still working, is he going to post or not post. Who knows? Jon is a mystery. Does he like all the attention, Perphaps. Maybe thats why he stayed unregisterd. Maybe hes waiting to see how all this pans out. Maybe hes working on his response. Maybe he wants to make me look like a fool. Who knows? Cole, to be honest Im too old (42) to be playing these silly little games(kinda like in boot camp). Life is just to short. Im done. take care area 43
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705red
Browncafe Steward
Breaking news? Are you telling us that you now just became aware of the pension crisis?
Curious, has anyone sent Jon an email and received a response. Early in my thread, I made a statement that the government and big corporations were working on creating software that could track an email to its orgin like a 911 traced call. I can't confirm whether it is still in the works or that they have achieved it. The government would use it in tracking potential terrorist. Corporations would use it as an attempt to make Big Brother more Bigger. This could definetly detour Jon from posting. Again, who knows. sincerely area 43
RockyRogue
Agent of Change
This is a blast from the past lol. This was in the news a couple of years ago. A few major cities have a similar system, I think. I believe the Federal government has ordered cell carriers to do something with emergency/911 service as far as more precise location of calls. Right now--or before--it was just an area based on what cell tower was closest. At some point--perhaps even next year--its supposed to be within a few meters. -Rocky
705red
Browncafe Steward
Jon has posted on this topic but i havent seen any new posts in a week or so. I think benedict area had a hand in his disapperance. Maybe big brown has him hog-tied and kidnapped somewhere now because of the conversation that area had with his center manager and ups accountant. I sure hope jon is alive and well!
yes its breaking news its a new report out telling how much underfunded the pension is plus it tells us to get the hell out of the central states if we can thats is news ....
Dude!, 50 cent. Ooops I mean 2 cent(light hearted way). That dude that has the avatar with the tin foil hat and the cat kills me every time I look at it. ROFL LMAO. Hey he has to be careful. Remember Micheal Vick. Dont want to be thrown in the slammer with a big guy named Butch. Anyhow, I wear my foil hat when I deliver. Im on a rural run so I wait till I get out of town intill I put it on. Folks, you wont believe it! I get an extra 2 stops per hour out of that thing. Those drivers that have radios in there truck it probably helps the reception. Remember, dont hook those radios to the truck battery. wink wink, lmao ( ; sorry pip Im just kidding.
Hey Red, maybe you could get one. Maybe it will cure your mental disorder. Ive painted mine brown. Anyhow, when I wear my foil hat on my rural route the farmers have taken a liken to it. I told them it makes crops grow faster. Boy, their totally greatful. The farmers wave emphatically with their foil hat securely fastened to their head. Hey, dont want to lose that thing and have major crop failure. lmao This could catch on and go nationwide. Ill stop, I guess Im getting a little carried away. Dude, how do you turn these foil hats down. Also when sleeping and showering how do you keep it from getting smashed? sincerely a43
705red
Browncafe Steward
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JonFrum
Guest
DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!!! Especially if they are mentally ill and talk of Poop Birds!
The #1 rule of Internet posting is: DONT FEED THE TROLLS!!!
As soon as I realized Area43 was suffering from a mental illness, I stopped posting. I hoped the thread would die out. If it didn't, I knew Area43 would post further and reveal more evidence of his mental illness. This is what he has done. But unfortunately, here we are almost a month later and this thread just won't die.
What a shame Cheryl didn't put a stop to it immediately. It was a hate filled attack, totally unprovoked, and included completely invented accusations intended to get me fired, and jailed on misdemeanor charges and felony wiretapping.
This is the problem with bulletin boards that allow anonymous posting. We are all at the mercy of Cheryl and the moderators, and if they won't do their job, then we are royally screwed. Our attackers are protected behind the Browncafe curtain of annonymity. The overall climate of discussion suffers. This is why the Internet is such a cesspool, and useful information is so hard to find, because it is surrounded by so much nonsense.
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THE REASONS I DON'T REGISTER:
There is no requirement to.
There is no real benefit. I register on other sites because they sent me email updates, or give me free access to Form 5500s and Form 990s, for example, without subjecting me to personal attacks.
My original post was retroactively moved to a newly created sub-forum that had a lot less viewers that the main forum.
The title of my original post, which turned out to be a very long-running thread, was altered so it seemed to say the opposite of what I very deliberately tried to convey. This really rubbed me the wrong way, and seemed to confuse a number of posters in that thread as well.
I don't engage in back-and-forth chit-chat (not that there is anything wrong with that) so I don't mind a slight delay for my posts to be approved by a moderator. I kind of like the idea that a moderator is forced to actually read my posts. He/she may learn something.
I often post late at night, when few are online, so the short delay waiting for a moderator to approve my posting is not a problem.
I do not want to be hit with unsolicited Personal Messages from annoymous people. Many people will say even worse things in Personal Messages than they will in a public posting. I believe the public nature of posting (even though annoymous) weeds out at least some of the Crazies, and causes others to think twice before posting. (This works even better if moderators do their job.)
I may not have the time to respond to Personal Messages.
I may not remember what was said in a Personal Message, versus what was said in a public posting.
I don't want *some* of the people on Browncafe giving me annomyous evaluations via the Personal Reputation feature. When I looked at who had the highest respect of the Browncafe community, (or at least of the activists) it was Tieguy followed closely in fourth place by Area43; and the latter has only been a member since February 2, 2006! Not exactly my idea of a jury of my peers.
(I hope you all appreciate the risks I took to uncover this classified information. I had to bribe the guards, drug the administrator, pick the lock, lower myself by a rope and grappling hook, pistol-whip the data-entry clerk, hack into the system, and not leave any fingerprints, all the while, trying not to set-off the motion detectors, or trip the burglar alarm. All that "black ops" training at "the Farm" really came in handy.)
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Like some of you, I'm still waiting for someone, anyone, to quote what information of mine I obtained illegally or unethically. Wherever possible I post a clickable link to the original source so I think Area43 and RockyRogue are having trouble finding evidence to back up the charges they already have convicted me of. Of course, some things just aren't on the Net, or they once were, but aren't any longer, so not everything can have a hyperlink. I want everyone to click on the links I post to get more information, and to get the info direct from the original source. In fact, one of the features I like about this site is that management may read everything that is posted, just as do union and non-union employees, and other visitors as well.
If any one has any question about anything I have posted, please quote the posting of mine that has your panties in a bunch and I will tell you exactly how and where I got it and why it is true.
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This whole appaling thread raises so many issues that should be addressed, but I just don't have the time.
I have posted all my personal information repeatedly in three seperate threads, begining with my first thread in 2006. . . .
http://www.browncafe.com/community/threads/ups-subsidizing-non-ups-pensions.27725/
Tieguy, Engineer79, and others have had plenty of time to investigate me if they really wanted to. I have nothing to hide.
If anyone still has a problem with me not registering, BITE ME!
The #1 rule of Internet posting is: DONT FEED THE TROLLS!!!
As soon as I realized Area43 was suffering from a mental illness, I stopped posting. I hoped the thread would die out. If it didn't, I knew Area43 would post further and reveal more evidence of his mental illness. This is what he has done. But unfortunately, here we are almost a month later and this thread just won't die.
What a shame Cheryl didn't put a stop to it immediately. It was a hate filled attack, totally unprovoked, and included completely invented accusations intended to get me fired, and jailed on misdemeanor charges and felony wiretapping.
This is the problem with bulletin boards that allow anonymous posting. We are all at the mercy of Cheryl and the moderators, and if they won't do their job, then we are royally screwed. Our attackers are protected behind the Browncafe curtain of annonymity. The overall climate of discussion suffers. This is why the Internet is such a cesspool, and useful information is so hard to find, because it is surrounded by so much nonsense.
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THE REASONS I DON'T REGISTER:
There is no requirement to.
There is no real benefit. I register on other sites because they sent me email updates, or give me free access to Form 5500s and Form 990s, for example, without subjecting me to personal attacks.
My original post was retroactively moved to a newly created sub-forum that had a lot less viewers that the main forum.
The title of my original post, which turned out to be a very long-running thread, was altered so it seemed to say the opposite of what I very deliberately tried to convey. This really rubbed me the wrong way, and seemed to confuse a number of posters in that thread as well.
I don't engage in back-and-forth chit-chat (not that there is anything wrong with that) so I don't mind a slight delay for my posts to be approved by a moderator. I kind of like the idea that a moderator is forced to actually read my posts. He/she may learn something.
I often post late at night, when few are online, so the short delay waiting for a moderator to approve my posting is not a problem.
I do not want to be hit with unsolicited Personal Messages from annoymous people. Many people will say even worse things in Personal Messages than they will in a public posting. I believe the public nature of posting (even though annoymous) weeds out at least some of the Crazies, and causes others to think twice before posting. (This works even better if moderators do their job.)
I may not have the time to respond to Personal Messages.
I may not remember what was said in a Personal Message, versus what was said in a public posting.
I don't want *some* of the people on Browncafe giving me annomyous evaluations via the Personal Reputation feature. When I looked at who had the highest respect of the Browncafe community, (or at least of the activists) it was Tieguy followed closely in fourth place by Area43; and the latter has only been a member since February 2, 2006! Not exactly my idea of a jury of my peers.
(I hope you all appreciate the risks I took to uncover this classified information. I had to bribe the guards, drug the administrator, pick the lock, lower myself by a rope and grappling hook, pistol-whip the data-entry clerk, hack into the system, and not leave any fingerprints, all the while, trying not to set-off the motion detectors, or trip the burglar alarm. All that "black ops" training at "the Farm" really came in handy.)
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Like some of you, I'm still waiting for someone, anyone, to quote what information of mine I obtained illegally or unethically. Wherever possible I post a clickable link to the original source so I think Area43 and RockyRogue are having trouble finding evidence to back up the charges they already have convicted me of. Of course, some things just aren't on the Net, or they once were, but aren't any longer, so not everything can have a hyperlink. I want everyone to click on the links I post to get more information, and to get the info direct from the original source. In fact, one of the features I like about this site is that management may read everything that is posted, just as do union and non-union employees, and other visitors as well.
If any one has any question about anything I have posted, please quote the posting of mine that has your panties in a bunch and I will tell you exactly how and where I got it and why it is true.
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This whole appaling thread raises so many issues that should be addressed, but I just don't have the time.
I have posted all my personal information repeatedly in three seperate threads, begining with my first thread in 2006. . . .
http://www.browncafe.com/community/threads/ups-subsidizing-non-ups-pensions.27725/
Tieguy, Engineer79, and others have had plenty of time to investigate me if they really wanted to. I have nothing to hide.
If anyone still has a problem with me not registering, BITE ME!
jonfrum,
If you have been upset with this thread, than as a "moderator not doing their job", than I am sorry. This is the first time it has been called to our attention by yourself. All you had to do was contact us, there is no way volunteers running this site read everything posted. We depend on the Users to contact us if something is wrong. I thought that all of the posters on this thread were complimenting your efforts. One posted some nonsensical remarks, but later apologized. I know that personally, I have validated quite a few of your posts. I will often log on about 5AM, and have enjoyed a few of them. I thought this whole thread was nonsense, because I know you are one of the few people who have posted their real name, work location, and private e-mail address. I hope that you will continue to contribute to the Brown Cafe Community. Your thoughts are appreciated here.
If you have been upset with this thread, than as a "moderator not doing their job", than I am sorry. This is the first time it has been called to our attention by yourself. All you had to do was contact us, there is no way volunteers running this site read everything posted. We depend on the Users to contact us if something is wrong. I thought that all of the posters on this thread were complimenting your efforts. One posted some nonsensical remarks, but later apologized. I know that personally, I have validated quite a few of your posts. I will often log on about 5AM, and have enjoyed a few of them. I thought this whole thread was nonsense, because I know you are one of the few people who have posted their real name, work location, and private e-mail address. I hope that you will continue to contribute to the Brown Cafe Community. Your thoughts are appreciated here.
705red
Browncafe Steward
Re: DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!!! Especially if they are mentally ill and talk of Poop Bir
Jon nice to hear from you, hope all is well! Keep up with the posting! Dont get discouraged over a few bad apples. When you deal with people you have to understand that you cant please everyone, and that theres alot of different points of view and they all could be right to the poster. I would appreciate if you kept posting so we could come to our own conclusions.
Jon nice to hear from you, hope all is well! Keep up with the posting! Dont get discouraged over a few bad apples. When you deal with people you have to understand that you cant please everyone, and that theres alot of different points of view and they all could be right to the poster. I would appreciate if you kept posting so we could come to our own conclusions.
tieguy
Banned
trickpony1
Well-Known Member
I don't think Jon thinks he's too good to register.
There is a degree of comfort in not registering as others have mentioned there are ways of tracking everyone.
Scan the number of members online and compare to the number of "guests" (unregistered users).
I do like his attitude as evidenced by his comment about anyone having a problem with him not registering can.......
You go Jon!
There is a degree of comfort in not registering as others have mentioned there are ways of tracking everyone.
Scan the number of members online and compare to the number of "guests" (unregistered users).
I do like his attitude as evidenced by his comment about anyone having a problem with him not registering can.......
You go Jon!
