Local 340

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Knowing that in the world of today the IBT cannot fight a war on two fronts perhaps your national organization will try to settle up with UPS moving things along on at an accelerated pace so it can figure out what to do about Yellow.

If you recall by the time union represented Consolidated Freightways went below the Mendoza Line the company already had it's nonunion subsidiary Con-Way up, up and running and ready to take over and when CF closed up the industry barely noticed.

Today if you've got labor problems..... bypass it.... Start your own nonunion subsidiary or buy one that is.

Amazon is their next priority.

 

[It will be fine]

So instead of reading, you just continue to comment the same thing?

I read your blabber about blaming management. I didn’t read anything about how going out of business is good for the workers that will lose their jobs.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I read your blabber about blaming management. I didn’t read anything about how going out of business is good for the workers that will lose their jobs.

Well, the blabber about management is the reason they’re in the situation they’re in. I’m sure unlike you most of those people that work there are actually not cowards, and do not want to their selves like you do, some people actually have intestinal fortitude, and are willing to make a stand after that given back, and so many chances to the company.

 

[It will be fine]

Well, the blabber about management is the reason they’re in the situation they’re in. I’m sure unlike you most of those people that work there are actually not cowards, and do not want to their selves like you do, some people actually have intestinal fortitude, and are willing to make a stand after that given back, and so many chances to the company.

So how are things better for them when they don’t have a job? I think it’s obvious why you can’t answer that simple question.

 

[Thebrownblob]

So how are things better for them when they don’t have a job? I think it’s obvious why you can’t answer that simple question.

They will have jobs most likely at a better company if this company doesn’t want to get their act together. I thought that was pretty easy to figure out. Most of them have CDL’s It Will be just fine. Just because you pay your people like crap and treat them like crap. Does it mean people need to accept that. Being a garbage human being, I guess you wouldn’t know that.

 

[It will be fine]

They will have jobs most likely at a better company if this company doesn’t want to get their act together. I thought that was pretty easy to figure out. Most of them have CDL’s It Will be just fine. Just because you pay your people like crap and treat them like crap. Does it mean people need to accept that. Being a garbage human being, I guess you wouldn’t know that.

They could always get these better jobs that you claim are available. That’s a nonsense response. What a sad justification for a union driving yet another company out of business.

 

[Thebrownblob]

They could always get these better jobs that you claim are available. That’s a nonsense response. What a sad justification for a union driving yet another company out of business.

Human nature likes familiarity but sometimes being shaken up is a good thing. Like I said, and you don’t seem to understand some people don’t just take what they’re given forever especially when they know they’re worth more.
Educate yourself a little about yellow and I don’t think even you who hates working class people would think the union did this or the union workers. Corporate mismanagement, and corporate greed did.

 

[sailfish]

Educate yourself a little about yellow and I don’t think even you who hates working class people would think the union did this or the union workers. Corporate mismanagement, and corporate greed did.

They get what they deserve.

Yellow | Employee Diversity, Equity & Inclusion

At Yellow, we believe that hiring people with diverse backgrounds and varied characteristics builds a stronger workforce. Learn about Yellow's commitment to diversity.

www.myyellow.com

 

[Thebrownblob]

They get what they deserve.

Yellow | Employee Diversity, Equity & Inclusion

At Yellow, we believe that hiring people with diverse backgrounds and varied characteristics builds a stronger workforce. Learn about Yellow's commitment to diversity.

www.myyellow.com

Idiots

 

[It will be fine]

Human nature likes familiarity but sometimes being shaken up is a good thing. Like I said, and you don’t seem to understand some people don’t just take what they’re given forever especially when they know they’re worth more.
Educate yourself a little about yellow and I don’t think even you who hates working class people would think the union did this or the union workers. Corporate mismanagement, and corporate greed did.

So if there are tons of better jobs out there what good did the union do for these workers?

 

[Thebrownblob]

So if there are tons of better jobs out there what good did the union do for these workers?

What are you talking about? Many of those jobs will be union when they go to ABF. And Tforce. And every union sets the standards for wages so they’re scumbags like yourself don’t get away with paying people pennies.. they also give them benefits and retirement, vacations, a safe work environment and they say in their workplace. And access to the middle class with a steady career. And if they will run like UPS, it works great for everyone.

 

[It will be fine]

What are you talking about? Many of those jobs will be union when they go to ABF. And Tforce. And every union sets the standards for wages so they’re scumbags like yourself don’t get away with paying people pennies.. they also give them benefits and retirement, vacations, a safe work environment and they say in their workplace. And access to the middle class with a steady career. And if they will run like UPS, it works great for everyone.

Your arguments are not at all compelling. You’re bad at this. The union workers at Yellow will have gained nothing when Yellow goes out of business. Your long winded rambling responses don’t change that.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Your arguments are not at all compelling. You’re bad at this. The union workers at Yellow will have gained nothing when Yellow goes out of business. Your long winded rambling responses don’t change that.

Lol I don’t wish them to but it is what it is

 

[bacha29]

Lol I don’t wish them to but it is what it is

What is of upmost importance of the IBT and labor unions in general is to preserve it's ability to continue to set the market for the labor in their sectors of the economy.

In order to protect the rich GOP's publicly stated policy initiative is to raise the Medicare retirement age to age 70 and has long campaigned to raise the SS full retirement age to 70 including raising early retirement from 62 to several years higher making the working class work longer, harder and later in life but never asking the rich to do anything but to drive and even larger income gap between the classes .

This morning it's my understanding that talks between UPS and IBT have broken off. It is the usual posturing you see during such events. If it comes down to push vs shove I hope the IBT membership is fully prepared not just verbally prepared but FULLY prepared both economically and psychologically for a long and bloody fight.

Now if the public comes out on the side of IBT then afterward the IBT must be willing to go outside it's market sector and materially participate in efforts to organize workers as part of an overall campaign to stop the erosion of earning power of your everyday blue collar worker.

 

[Thebrownblob]

What is of upmost importance of the IBT and labor unions in general is to preserve it's ability to continue to set the market for the labor in their sectors of the economy.

In order to protect the rich GOP's publicly stated policy initiative is to raise the Medicare retirement age to age 70 and has long campaigned to raise the SS full retirement age to 70 including raising early retirement from 62 to several years higher making the working class work longer, harder and later in life but never asking the rich to do anything but to drive and even larger income gap between the classes .

This morning it's my understanding that talks between UPS and IBT have broken off. It is the usual posturing you see during such events. If it comes down to push vs shove I hope the IBT membership is fully prepared not just verbally prepared but FULLY prepared both economically and psychologically for a long and bloody fight.

Now if the public comes out on the side of IBT then afterward the IBT must be willing to go outside it's market sector and materially participate in efforts to organize workers as part of an overall campaign to stop the erosion of earning power of your everyday blue collar worker.

Surprisingly, I agree with much of what you’re saying in this particular post. Corporate greed has gotten out of control, most people are willing to be subservient to it, pretty soon there will only be the have and have Nots if somebody doesn’t push back.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

In order to protect the rich GOP's publicly stated policy initiative is to raise the Medicare retirement age to age 70 and has long campaigned to raise the SS full retirement age to 70 including raising early retirement from 62 to several years higher making the working class work longer, harder and later in life but never asking the rich to do anything but to drive and even larger income gap between the classes .

There it is.
Every single thread you're in.
Crying about medicare.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Now if the public comes out on the side of IBT then afterward the IBT must be willing to go outside it's market sector and materially participate in efforts to organize workers as part of an overall campaign to stop the erosion of earning power of your everyday blue collar worker.

What market sector do you suggest sweetie?

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

Your arguments are not at all compelling. You’re bad at this. The union workers at Yellow will have gained nothing when Yellow goes out of business. Your long winded rambling responses don’t change that.

Is the union why ABF is on the brink of collapse?

 

[Thebrownblob]

Is the union why ABF is on the brink of collapse?

It’s hard to imagine someone being upset that working people would push wages, working conditions, and better retirements. Especially in the case of yellow, when all you have to do is look at the past decade of the people in charge of the company, absolutely ripping everyone off, including the taxpayers. The teamster membership gave up and gave back. A lot to keep their company from going out of business but the people in charge had other ideas.

 

[FedexCares]

It’s hard to imagine someone being upset that working people would push wages, working conditions, and better retirements. Especially in the case of yellow, when all you have to do is look at the past decade of the people in charge of the company, absolutely ripping everyone off, including the taxpayers. The teamster membership gave up and gave back. A lot to keep their company from going out of business but the people in charge had other ideas.

Years of propaganda have made unions the enemy. The same people unions would benefit are often the people that will now fight tooth and nail against them.

Corporate profits and executive compensation packages are at an all time high in many sectors directly off the backs of middle class workers. Forget an eroding middle class, decades of stagnant wages and skyrocketing health costs, any worker that tries to fight back against this trend is labeled lazy or a malcontent or even a socialist.

UPS has enjoyed record profits for a number of years so any argument that the union is “driving another company out of business” as one person suggested here is laughable.