No New Sleeper Teams

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Dracula, Jul 17, 2018.

  1. Dracula

    Dracula Package Car is cake compared to this...

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    Much has been made about UPS adding 2000 new sleeper team jobs. But if you actually read the proposed language, it’s not hard to see how UPS could use this proposal to create NO new sleeper jobs, and even start to eliminate current mileage jobs.

    The new contract says if UPS creates 200 new jobs by the end of 2019, then 450 in each of following years of the contract, they can use substitute means of running loads off the rail.

    All it guarantees us, is 2000 new jobs REMOVING loads from the rail, not running them. This is exactly the opposite of what we wanted from the new contract.

    It was almost as if Denis T gave the union lawyers the day off when this section was written.

    Simply pathetic.
     
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  2. Maple Grove MN Driver

    Maple Grove MN Driver Cocaine Mang!

    Way to go Denis T!
    This contract is garbage!
     
  3. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    If you get a chance, listen to the conference call @UPS rising.


    Listen to the UPS Teleconference Call from July 10 - UPS Rising


    Denis T addressed this.

    If I remember correctly, they were being pulled off the rail specifically to be made

    in to sleeper runs and the company would have a "roving group" of 100 supes roaming

    the country to train drivers. I'll go back and listen to it again.


    This was one of my personal concern's with the new language, that I wanted clarification on.



    -Bug-
     
  4. Rick Ross

    Rick Ross I'm into distribution!!

    I am concerned with that language as well. If they hire 200 then use of contractors will be wide open. We run quite a few extra rail jobs on Sundays, I'm sure those would disappear.

    The link to the conference call goes to static part way in. Any other links?
     
  5. Dracula

    Dracula Package Car is cake compared to this...

    That may be true, but it doesn’t make a lot of sense. We’ve been training 3-4 drivers every other week since late winter. And we’re just one hub. So I don’t know why they would need a mobile band of sups to train drivers.

    Either way, we already fight UPS for using contractors when the current contract language only allows contractors during peak. That doesn’t stop them, so why would be allowing language in the new contract that makes it easier for them to farm out our work?

    This was the most important issue for feeder drivers and our negotiators did the opposite of what we asked. If they can use contractors however they want, that’s the beginning of the end for union feeder drivers at UPS.

    Why else would they have spent almost 2 billion dollars on Coyote Logistics?

    This contract is a non-starter for me and everyone I know in feeders.
     
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  6. Box Ox

    Box Ox Well-Known Member

    Yep. It's under "More Subcontracting in Feeders".

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  7. specter208

    specter208 Active Member

    Wow, very misleading language.
     
  8. silenze

    silenze Lunch is the best part of the day

    Don't worry.
    Denise got a limp handshake from ups
     
  9. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    Yep.


     
  10. upschuck

    upschuck Well-Known Member

    Personally, I'd rather read the contract, and not listen/read anybody's interpretation of said contract.
     
  11. MyTripisCut

    MyTripisCut Dumpster, INABAG

    Interpreting the contract is where all power comes from.
     
  12. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    And then....

    Bitch about it, because it doesn't suit your needs ?
     
  13. upschuck

    upschuck Well-Known Member

    But when people with an agenda interpret the contract to meet their views, then we can't really trust what is said. I believe my interpretation would be much more level headed and true to the contract , than most here, by reading the thing with an open mind, and without preconceived notions.
     
  14. I want my turkey back or it's a No vote from me.
     
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  15. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    There is something wrong with you....

    That I like.

    :biggrin:
     
  16. MyTripisCut

    MyTripisCut Dumpster, INABAG

    The only thing that matters, is how UPS applies their interpretation, and what your local does in response.
     
  17. Just want the moral victory
     
  18. upschuck

    upschuck Well-Known Member

    What will be used, his interpretation, or whats is written in contract?
     
  19. Future

    Future Victory Ride

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  20. Benben

    Benben Working on a new degree, Masters in BS Detecting!

    The dispatcher gives us the bird every day!
     
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