CoolStoryBro
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What some drivers figured out is turn off ODO. Print RDO. Turn ODO back on. Follow the print out. Never mind the Diad.
ORION dumbest moves- on topic please
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What some drivers figured out is turn off ODO. Print RDO. Turn ODO back on. Follow the print out. Never mind the Diad.
1989
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Look on the shelf for the next stop.
542thruNthru
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Only delaying the inevitable. Soon, probably next year they will demand a 85% trace or better. These drivers will be crying again about their RDO.
I run ORION and do 15-20 less stops a day. Why is everyone fighting this thing so much? Yes you go back to the same stop a few times. Who cares? You do the same stop twice or 2 different stops it all pays the same.
Don't want the hours get on 9.5 and do even less work. I went from 1.35 in the hole a day to 2.55.
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
I will give them 85% and have missed stops and pickups. Then they wont demand 85% any more.
Maple Grove MN Driver
Cocaine Mang!
Malicious Compliance is what they will throw at you.
542thruNthru
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That's what I'm saying to do. Why go through all the extra hassle when if you follow orion for a few week they will be forced to fix it. I'm tired of doing managements job. It's their numbers they can fix them.
542thruNthru
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They tried that here. "Malicious Obedience" we laughed and my Shop Steward handed the center manager the contract and said. "Can you show me that Article please. I can't find it."
Maple Grove MN Driver
Cocaine Mang!
I agree......Management is worthless and typically grasp at straws when confronted.
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
I work in the Western Conference.
Our contract language lists seven “cardinal offenses” for which we can be terminated without first going through progressive discipline and the grievance procedure.
These offenses include theft, provable dishonesty, unprovoked assault on a fellow employee, malicious destruction of UPS property, drunk while on duty, serious accident due to negligence, and unauthorized passengers in a company vehicle.
“Malicious Compliance” is not on that list.
Furthermore...attempting to discipline an employee for service failures due to following ORION after you have already threatened him with with discipline for failure to follow ORION is a violation of the Article 37 prohibition against over supervision and harrassment. The company cant have it both ways.
Upsking
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Had the same thing had stops for houses next to each other. Orion wanted me to only del one and come back later for the one next door.
HereWeGoAgain
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Today I had a stop at the end of my main business street. Stop had 8 Packages and I just so happened to scroll down and saw that it had me delivering the ground packages and coming back later to deliver a saver. Dumbest thing I've seen yet by far. Just about everyday I have to go back to air stops that have ground but this takes the cake lol.
CoolStoryBro
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I'm not on the 9.5 list and I average over 50 hours per week.
I'm trying to avoid stress and anger. The route I'm on this week is a disaster. The truck is full and ODO wants me to to be able to access every shelf. It doesn't take into account one way streets. It makes no sense and requires an extreme amount of effort.
Rdo is mindless, easy and much more efficient. I don't care about when I finish. I just want to finish with low blood pressure.
Rack em
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Cool story bro
trickpony1
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The company wants it both ways because it causes "double bind stress" which is, essentially, "damned if you do and damned if you don't".
Double bind stress causes depression and anxiety. The company apparently thinks an unhappy employee is a productive employee.
There you go.
I'm a cover driver so if I'm running blind I have no choice but to run Orion. Yesterday Orion had me delivering 90% of my stops on the opposite side of the street, skipping side streets on the right hand side of a busy road, while doing all the side roads on the left hand side. It's like Orion is trying to get you killed.
I was on ai route a few days ago & I didn't notice my 1st stop was in the 6000 section, ( my truck was so bricked out that day they had to shuttle out the stuff that didn't fit later ) I pulled up & the guy was waiting for me at the end of his driveway. He says, "Awesome, I've been waiting for these cigars" Me " sorry, ill be back around 830 (pm) "
I was on ai route a few days ago & I didn't notice my 1st stop was in the 6000 section, ( my truck was so bricked out that day they had to shuttle out the stuff that didn't fit later ) I pulled up & the guy was waiting for me at the end of his driveway. He says, "Awesome, I've been waiting for these cigars" Me " sorry, ill be back around 830 (pm) "
Blackadder 2
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100% compliance at peak should be fun.
UPS will need a 100 hour rule to get things done.
UPS will need a 100 hour rule to get things done.
542thruNthru
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We were told from the beginning that it will be turned off during peak. I'm not positive but I'm sure it will be like that everywhere. Stop density is too high during Peak to run Orion
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
30 years ago when I was running routes blind, I didnt follow ORION....I'm a cover driver so if I'm running blind I have no choice but to run Orion. Yesterday Orion had me delivering 90% of my stops on the opposite side of the street, skipping side streets on the right hand side of a busy road, while doing all the side roads on the left hand side. It's like Orion is trying to get you killed.
I was on ai route a few days ago & I didn't notice my 1st stop was in the 6000 section, ( my truck was so bricked out that day they had to shuttle out the stuff that didn't fit later ) I pulled up & the guy was waiting for me at the end of his driveway. He says, "Awesome, I've been waiting for these cigars" Me " sorry, ill be back around 830 (pm) "
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
To me, conflicting instructions actually reduce stress.
Since I will be wrong no matter what choice I make, it means I have the freedom to follow whichever directive makes the most sense to me.
542thruNthru
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True but you were also trained on how to run a route blind and also were on paper so nothing was ever late.
Our training now is "look at the board and follow it."
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