That understand that this job is more than the wage you are paid...
Part-timers deserve better.
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That understand that this job is more than the wage you are paid...
PT Car Washer
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We could make some cuts to the IE department. our IE walks around all day and hits on the female workers, and makes smart ass comments to all the guys. He should be switched to part time at least.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
Absolutely.
They are more reliable because they have their "eye on the prize".
With some due diligence, now they have Health & Welfare + Pension.
The opportunity to contribute to a 401K.
Benefits.... not realized in most other employment situations.
-Bug-
TearsInRain
IE boogeyman
Blackstream
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Funnily enough, I also doubt very many if any part timers with less than 4 years seniority will vote, no matter how much they like the contract. Vast majority of that group are gonna be ~20 years old and as we've seen in basically every election ever, they tend to be so preoccupied with themselves and their life that they don't vote even if they have a vested interest in the result. Basically if UPS was counting on low seniority PTers to vote through the contract, they're dumb.
Zowert
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Isn't the pension for part timers kind of weak? I mean its better than nothing, but still.. The medical coverage is most likely the reason they're there. I just can't see a 45 year old working his way into full time package delivery driver from P/T Preload. Although some do it. We just got a new driver that is 47 years old, he spent four years working preload before one of his bids finally went through for driver. He was the hardest working guy in preload by far, making all the 20-somethings look like slackers. To be fair, most of them are though.
moomoom
Active Member
Job isn't rewarding enough to be a hard worker. Being a slacker is the way to go sadly.
DELACROIX
In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
It would be fair to say that a number of high seniority partners eligible for the early out are eagerly awaiting the ratification of this contract. I believe that no ones leaves till this one is settled, including some on the companies' negotiation committees. Again another carrot on a stick similar to their Union counterparts.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
How many part-time employees have a guaranteed pension ?
Most are lucky, if they can contribute to a company 401K.
Absolutely.
Hate to say it.... but they are more reliable.
It's a "generation" type thing.
Are you here to work and get paid ?
Or, do you expect to get paid.... for looking at your phone ?
Management included.
-Bug-
moomoom
Active Member
We are here to work but don't expect us to move fast for
hours, pay, and the only reward for moving fast is more work and maybe a good job. The guys that last long here take their time.
Brown Biscuit
Blind every day
People are going driving after as little as 3 months in my hub.
brown_trousers
Well-Known Member
The last part timer i know that retired. Said his benefit was up to 45k a year. I think that is very fair compensation for part time work
Time for change
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Guaranteed pension? Never heard of such a thing, seen too many companies go belly up. I’d take a matching 401k all day over a pension. Just happy the corrupt teamsters don’t control our pension. Best part of being part time.
Blackstream
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I'm not so sure about the follow up statements, but I do agree that pensions are too unreliable in this day and age unless you work for the government. I do work in a region with a 90%+ funded pension (and somehow I believe we also get more than what the master guarantees, so I'm not sure how that ended up working out), so at least I'm likely to get my pension, but 20-40 years is a long time for something to go wrong. I basically have to plan my retirement around not having my pension just in case, and make my pension my bonus money should it still be around when I retire. A 401k on the other hand I could plan around (and as such, I basically have to have a 401k anyways in addition to my pension). I do kind of wish my hourly contributions went straight into a 401k though instead of into the pension fund.
Should be more then that when part time jobs were created in the early 80s minimum wage was $3.30 and UPS started part timers at $8.5
PT Car Washer
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I believe the Teamsters allowed UPS to use PT labor in the early 60's. On the condition they pay FT wages and benefits to protect the FT jobs.
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Don't think any part timer is asking for a tremendous wage increase. I remember when I started at 11 an hour and I found out that one of the preloaders on our shift ss making over 40.
I was kind of baffled. I don't think pre-loaders are asking for 40.00 but just to make more than new hires.
DELACROIX
In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
What region or conference? The part time IBT/UPS pension tops out at 27K max.
brown_trousers
Well-Known Member
Western conference. Our pension benefit grows proportionally to how much is contributed.
