Putin Biden Ukraine Negotiations

burrheadd

KING Of GIFS
Conspiracy theorist much?
You pretend to be some economy guru yet you paint your theories inside the tiny liberal box.

Disagree AND Trump isn't potus. Stop trying to deflect. Biden is simply the absolute sorriest potus in a century. Deal with Biden and stop with the tds.

Again with trump.?

Gonna be crickets chirping.
LMAO
 

El Correcto

god is dead
Unfortunately for America Trump isn't potus. Liberals are all over trump as another deflection.
How do you like gas doubling in price. When is Biden ending covid and keeping the other promises.
Biden is a complete failure and he's putting America in a very bad economic position. Deal with that instead of trump.
I’m still waiting on that cure for cancer he promised during his campaign.
 

El Correcto

god is dead

Chuck Todd Asks Secretary of State Blinken Why Putin Didn’t Escalate During the Trump Administration​

Because Trump had people like Pompeo and Bolton who wouldn’t hesitate when it comes to ordering military intervention.
For all of trump’s dove talk on ending America’s “world police” status he chose some top notch people.
 

oldngray

nowhere special

El Correcto

god is dead

'Biden Becoming President is Best Thing that Ever Happened' to Putin​

Don’t forget this either.
Democrats have a long history of bowing to dictators in Russia. It’s part of what made the Russian hoax such a joke.
 

bacha29

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Here are the cold facts. In 1991 when the Soviet Union collapsed NATO consisted of 16 member nations Secretary of State James Baker told the Russian delegation that following the reunification of Germany it would be the only addition to NATO and NATO would not advance any further eastward.
So here we are 2022 and those 16 NATO member nations? Guess how many there are now?.....30. With nearly all of them former Warsaw Pact nations. Putin is right. After having been lied to by the West in the past why should he believe it now when it says that it has no current plans to admit Ukraine to NATO despite Ukraine says that it wants to. BTW if he wanted to once again stack Cuba full of nuclear missiles which he can.....what do you think about that?
The president of Finland made a good point today when he pointed to the fact that the situation in Europe is some ways more dangerous that it was during the Cold War. Back then as he pointed out there were agreements understandings and treaties with the Soviet Union where both understood what would happen if they didn't stay out o each others way....that don't exist anymore.

According to this AM's intelligence report Russian has 120 of it's 160 conventionally armed combat battalions parked on the Ukraine border. So you tell me what do you think he'll do after he bulldozes over Ukraine? Keep going westward into Moldova or Romania? Or perhaps turn north toward Poland? BTW He's an autocratic president, been in office for 22 years, doesn't have to answer to anybody and couldn't care less about how much suffering sanctions would inflict on the population.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
Don’t forget this either.
Democrats have a long history of bowing to dictators in Russia. It’s part of what made the Russian hoax such a joke.
So now you're trying to say that Kennedy bowed down to Khrushchev in the Cuban Missile Crisis ....Truman bowed down to Stalin with the Berlin Airlift,.... The Truman Doctrine....The Marshall Plan?.... Please, I want to hear more about today's conservative inspired effort at historical revisionism.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Here are the cold facts. In 1991 when the Soviet Union collapsed NATO consisted of 16 member nations Secretary of State James Baker told the Russian delegation that following the reunification of Germany it would be the only addition to NATO and NATO would not advance any further eastward.
So here we are 2022 and those 16 NATO member nations? Guess how many there are now?.....30. With nearly all of them former Warsaw Pact nations. Putin is right. After having been lied to by the West in the past why should he believe it now when it says that it has no current plans to admit Ukraine to NATO despite Ukraine says that it wants to. BTW if he wanted to once again stack Cuba full of nuclear missiles which he can.....what do you think about that?
The president of Finland made a good point today when he pointed to the fact that the situation in Europe is some ways more dangerous that it was during the Cold War. Back then as he pointed out there were agreements understandings and treaties with the Soviet Union where both understood what would happen if they didn't stay out o each others way....that don't exist anymore.

According to this AM's intelligence report Russian has 120 of it's 160 conventionally armed combat battalions parked on the Ukraine border. So you tell me what do you think he'll do after he bulldozes over Ukraine? Keep going westward into Moldova or Romania? Or perhaps turn north toward Poland? BTW He's an autocratic president, been in office for 22 years, doesn't have to answer to anybody and couldn't care less about how much suffering sanctions would inflict on the population.
You should consult a map. Poland is west. Romania is southwest. Belarus is north. By the way an attack on any NATO member is an attack on all of them according to their charter. And those former Warsaw Pact nations are in NATO for a reason as is being demonstrated by Putin now.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
You should consult a map. Poland is west. Romania is southwest. Belarus is north. By the way an attack on any NATO member is an attack on all of them according to their charter. And those former Warsaw Pact nations are in NATO for a reason as is being demonstrated by Putin now.
Yes I can read a map Poland is not due West nor is completely due North. and it shares a 300 mile border so it will depend on where you cross the border and what part of Ukraine the Russian forces are coming from. He's got Ukraine surrounded on 3 sides And how much of a defense could former Warsaw Pact nations put up against the Russians or would they put up any defense at all? 75% of the residents of Kiev are Russian speaking. So you tell me...Is this going to be Europe 1917 or Europe 1942?...."America, come save us again from another brutal dictator"! You've been around Tex. The best that can be hoped for is that the West will gain a little and lose a little. The Russians can only hope for the same. The real danger is a miscalculation. A Western allied flagged ship is boarded or attacked in the Black Sea or there's some type of incident between US and Russian air forces. it's been 80 years since a European world war. If history is any indication it's telling us it's time for another one.
 

vantexan

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Yes I can read a map Poland is not due West nor is completely due North. and it shares a 300 mile border so it will depend on where you cross the border and what part of Ukraine the Russian forces are coming from. He's got Ukraine surrounded on 3 sides And how much of a defense could former Warsaw Pact nations put up against the Russians or would they put up any defense at all? 75% of the residents of Kiev are Russian speaking. So you tell me...Is this going to be Europe 1917 or Europe 1942?...."America, come save us again from another brutal dictator"! You've been around Tex. The best that can be hoped for is that the West will gain a little and lose a little. The Russians can only hope for the same. The real danger is a miscalculation. A Western allied flagged ship is boarded or attacked in the Black Sea or there's some type of incident between US and Russian air forces. it's been 80 years since a European world war. If history is any indication it's telling us it's time for another one.
There's no way Putin is going into NATO countries. Remember Germany had allies going into WWII. Who does Russia have? Russia doesn't have the capability to fight any kind of sustained war with NATO. The only thing it has is a nuclear arsenal which it would only use if NATO was to invade it.
 

floridays

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Chuck Todd Asks Secretary of State Blinken Why Putin Didn’t Escalate During the Trump Administration​



"Isn’t it interesting that the last two times Russian president Vladimir Putin moved in with his military in regards to Ukraine, Joe Biden was in the White House?
Putin took Crimea in 2014 and now he has amassed nearly 200,000 troops on the border with Ukraine.
Vladimir Putin never tried this while Trump was president but that didn’t stop the media from calling Trump ‘Putin’s puppet’ for 5 years."




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UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
You should consult a map. Poland is west. Romania is southwest. Belarus is north. By the way an attack on any NATO member is an attack on all of them according to their charter. And those former Warsaw Pact nations are in NATO for a reason as is being demonstrated by Putin now.
Charter that isn’t worth the paper it’s written on. Germany has virtually no military, England has the fewest ships its had since the 1600 hundreds. France is not gonna fight. So what’s left? A handful of tiny countries that Putin would chew up. Remember, majority of nato countries don’t even contribute enough to it.
 

Lineandinitial

Legio patria nostra
Charter that isn’t worth the paper it’s written on. Germany has virtually no military, England has the fewest ships its had since the 1600 hundreds. France is not gonna fight. So what’s left? A handful of tiny countries that Putin would chew up. Remember, majority of nato countries don’t even contribute enough to it.
But wait!!
Pathetic Joe is talking about holding a Summit on the issue!

Don’t worry!
 
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