Pvd

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by The grinch, Dec 1, 2019.

  1. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    That "should" should be a "must".
     
  2. scooby0048

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    Reading that was interesting. Even though the document says PVDs will be worked 8 hours, they are not worked that many hours. Not that I care about them getting work, but the that's not even being followed.

    Thanks for posting that.
     
  3. scooby0048

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    The only reason I have not filed for the two drivers is I am trying to figure out if the PVDs being extended as in more than 90 miles from our center, will have any bearing on the RPCD being able to work.

    If the RPCD was offered the work, they would have to drive the 90 miles on their own dime and then return on their own dime. The route covered by the RPCD would be paid of course but because of this variable, I wonder if there is some way the company can get out of working the real drivers. Still researching this whole thing before I try to open a can of worms.
     
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  4. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Our rider has language that no helpers may be utilized if a driver is laid off. I haven't looked but maybe the Central has something like that. @Mugarolla would probably know.
     
  5. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Were they in the top 90% of seniority? If so that's a easy win also.

    Oh and not to be a ass but it's RPCD (regular package car driver)
     
  6. scooby0048

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    Ours does but my conundrum is if the PVDs are working and the drivers are not, is the company able to use "if work is available" BS to claim not enough work is available to put them to work. The PVDs are starting and finishing their work almost 100 miles away from our center and are only getting very few stops.
     
  7. scooby0048

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    They are not top 90% that's where I'm think the company can get away with it.

    LOL, I didn't even notice I was typing that. Right now, I'm watching RIPD and reading about MCRD drill instructors. All the letters are just looking the same. Good catch.
     
  8. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!


    We only have a clause that says no part time employee may drive if a driver is out of work.

    Nothing about helpers working or PVD's.
     
  9. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    And this clause is only for part time employees driving or moving equipment around the yard, tractors and package cars.

    In the Central, no part time employee is allowed to do delivery driving.
     
  10. scooby0048

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    How do you explain the PVDs then? We have PVDs delivering in extended areas when two RPCD are laid off. I so want to file a grievance for these guys but I am not sure there is a case.
     
  11. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    In the Central, if any PVD's are hired, they are hired as a full-time seasonal driver.

    Now, if they used a seasonal driver while an RPCD was laid off, they need to file on it.
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  12. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    Not relevant here, but the Central also has language not allowing a part time single day vacation coverage driver to work if a package car driver is laid off.
     
  13. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    I don't understand what the 90 miles has to do with it, or why drivers would have to make the trip on their dime. Is the work in another center? Contractual issues can be tough to figure out. I've been putting in as much time and effort I can to learn as much as I can since I became a steward. I finally feel like I'm getting a decent grip on the language. Keep at it.
     
  14. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    I identify as a RCMP.
     
  15. Boywondr

    Boywondr Newbie Doo

    Actually 2.
     
  16. Boywondr

    Boywondr Newbie Doo

    "100 miles away" would pass 5 center's jurisdiction here.
    Where are you at....Wyoming?
    File on it anyway. Get your BA involved. Leaving 2 ft pc drivers home and working pvds is asking for a fight.
     
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  17. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    I do hope that their first phone call was to their BA-----no way a FT driver should be sent home while a seasonal scab works.
     
  18. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

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  19. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    "No PT employee is allowed to do delivery driving." PT air drivers delivering ground is the fastest growing segment at UPS. Where have you been the last 10 years?
     
  20. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    That should only be in an emergency situation, or to avoid supes working.
     
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