Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by The grinch, Dec 1, 2019.

  1. scooby0048

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    The ninety miles from center thing is only relevant in the sense that the PVD doing that stuff is actually doing work off of a satellite route, so I have a feeling that the company would argue it's a different center's workload.

    I think our steward is, how do I put this, sub standard (to be nice). I have been trying to figure out why he has not continually filed on this and several other things. The things I have challenged him on, he tells me that he will not discuss other members union activities (I respect that). I am actively trying to become a second steward or an alternate and right now, and it's been a fight getting the members on board to stand up for themselves and demand action from the steward.

    Actually, yeah. One of our furthest stops from the center is almost 130 miles away.

    I spoke to them briefly yesterday. Will find out more about what they did today when I see them,
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  2. rod

    rod #1 on Upstates "list"

    Silly boy---no way is Trump "toast".
  3. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!


    Article 12 Section 4 of the Central

    Part-time employees will not be permitted to do delivery driving, feeder driving, or tractor-trailer driving work.

    PT air drivers are covered under Article 40 of the Master, not under the Central.


    National Master



    In order for the Employer, the Union and the employees to further benefit from the expanding air operations, the following Sections shall supersede language on the same subjects in the Supplements, Riders and Addenda, unless specifically stated otherwise in this Article.

    And if they use air PT air drivers to deliver ground, they are covered under the Master, not the Central, and it is only an exception, and there is a penalty to pay, full ground rate.

    If it is more than just an exception where you are at, and they are using you instead of hiring more full time drivers, maybe you need a better BA.

    I've been here enforcing the contract.

    Where you been?
  4. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    I also forgot.

    Weren't you the one bragging about a PTer making $90K.

    I guess you really don't want to enforce the contract, and you want to continue delivering that ground.
  5. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    He's got 30+ years in and is making bank-------why shouldn't he take advantage of the situation while he can?
  6. Maple Grove MN Driver

    Maple Grove MN Driver Cocaine Mang!

    He is violating the contract.
  7. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    Maybe because he chose to remain PT, and by him delivering ground all the time, he is taking away another PT employee's opportunity to go FT that wants to go FT.

    And everybody always grieves the second the Company violates the contract......

    Oh wait, not in this case.
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  8. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    By making himself available whenever and wherever he was needed he has had quite the lucrative "part time" career.

    To put it in perspective, I was a FT pkg car driver for 30 years and never broke $80K.
  9. trickpony1

    trickpony1 Well-Known Member

    ...and that is because….?
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  10. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!


    But he chose to remain PT.

    What about that PTer, who is only making $25K, that wants to go FT and make that $80K.

    Oh wait, we don't need him in packages because the Company uses 30 year PTers to deliver ground, on a very regular basis, violating the contract everytime.
  11. BadIdeaGuy

    BadIdeaGuy Don't discriminate against blind preloaders

    Speaking as the PTer who is patiently waiting to go full time, I'd appreciate the contract being upheld.
  12. rod

    rod #1 on Upstates "list"

    I believe PTCarwasher has over 40 years in.
  13. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    And this is by no means a shot at @PT Car Washer, but this should not be happening.

    PTers should only be delivering ground on an exception basis, not regularly.
  14. jcf

    jcf New Member

    not sure if your serious or messing with me.
  15. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    "...there is more to life than money...?"
  16. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    He is messing with you.
  17. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    Basically, he is their bitch------he is "on call" to help out whenever, wherever. Not enough to add a FT driver but just enough that they need someone to run it off. He is that someone.

    We had someone just like him at my former center. Eric was also their bitch-----he lived about a mile away from the center and they knew that he would come in on short notice before working his regular 22.3 shift.
  18. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    Would you be willing to double trip just to make sure the contract is being followed?
  19. trickpony1

    trickpony1 Well-Known Member

    You keep saying that but you could have had:
    - a nice home and;
    - an entry level Mercedes with all the bells and whistles.

    Think of the women you could have impressed.
  20. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    The type of women impressed by a fancy car and fat wallet are not the type that I want to be with.