cachmeifucan
Well-Known Member
Go on Fox news they seem to think the Janus case will effect us they are even quoting a teamsters sec tres
Supreme court to rule on union dues
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Catatonic
Nine Lives
Public employee union fees raise ire at Supreme Court but key justice remains silent on direction
Arguments were heard today (2/26/18) by the SCOTUS.
"You're basically arguing, 'Do away with unions,'" Justice Sonia Sotomayor told Messenger near the end of the hour-long debate.
Democrats fear losing $16 - $56 Million per year.
Arguments were heard today (2/26/18) by the SCOTUS.
"You're basically arguing, 'Do away with unions,'" Justice Sonia Sotomayor told Messenger near the end of the hour-long debate.
Democrats fear losing $16 - $56 Million per year.
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Brownsocks
Just a dog
If they rule it violates first amendment rights then it does affect us.
Sure, if you agree with the ludicrous idea that paying union dues is a violation of your right to free speech.
Brownsocks
Just a dog
That the Constitution guarantees freedom of association to each of us does not mean that we may each associate with anyone we choose. It means that we may associate with whoever also agrees to associate with us. If B is forced to accept A’s offer of association, B is not free to choose his associations. Association would be a right of A, not B. It would not be a human right. Therefore, freedom of association, correctly understood, has both a positive and a negative component. We are free to associate with those who will accept us (positive), and we are free to abstain from associations of which we do not approve (negative).
I am not a socialist, but my union is. Is it too much to ask for my union to be a little more welcoming to people like me? I don't even feel comfortable going to a meeting.
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Jkloc420
Do you need an air compressor or tire gauge
you didn' read the case did u
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Meaning you read it and didn't understand it?
That's all very well, but what does that have to do with this case? The plaintiffs are asserting that they should not even have to pay reduced fees that only cover the cost of the collective bargaining that secures their pay and benefits.
To your second point unions and collective bargaining are socialist institutions, you can't really have one without the other. Luckily for you in this country unionized labor makes up barely 10% of the workforce so it shouldn't be too hard for you to find a job where you don't have to deal with them.
It's pretty clear that you didn't.
Jkloc420
Do you need an air compressor or tire gauge
it means i watched the guy talk after the hearing yesterday outside the supreme courtMeaning you read it and didn't understand it?
Jkloc420
Do you need an air compressor or tire gauge
try againMeaning you read it and didn't understand it?
You "watched the guy talk".... This oughta be good...
Jkloc420
Do you need an air compressor or tire gauge
the guy who bought the case in the first place
So you got the story straight from the freeloader's mouth...smh
Jkloc420
Do you need an air compressor or tire gauge
like I said it depends on what you want your fees going for, that is always the argument
cachmeifucan
Well-Known Member
Your welcome and thank you I'm so glad I started a real conversation. I didn't read the case I admit but I got a feeling it should help us because once they rule against unions they might actually feel threatened and do their job get us a good contract and enforce it not just pass it.
cachmeifucan
Well-Known Member
And we will definitely get a ruling before August once they read the ruling then we will see the next step. If people are dumb enough to opt out let them at a lower wage and benefits
You gotta be kidding. The reason our contracts are getting weaker is because unions as a whole are getting weaker, once the whole country goes RTW (which this decision could hasten but which seems inevitable anyway) we will lose even the credible threat of a strike. The fact that you think a court decision which will weaken unions will somehow lead to stronger contracts is an indictment of our educational system.
