Your missing the point! Fedex has customers, fedex stock does alot better than ups's, and fedex also have drivers who care, the only thing fedex doesnt have as of yet is teamster representation to get them upwards of $27 an hour! So if you really believe that we would be making anything close to that $27 an hour without the teamsters ask your self why the average fedex driver is around $19, $20 an hour?
Come on vette you being a manager know you have fired people for less! You yourself probably dont honor the contract that someone alot smarter then you agreed to, but you(managers) feel that your above the law and can violate it at will!
Why don't you go work somewhere else. I have been here over 15 years. The UPS managers overdispatch the drivers not the Teamsters! What are you some non-union scab? I just want the company to stand behind their promise and my right to go home a lousy 2 times per month at a decent hour. What are you a worhaholic, or going into management, or just don't want to go home to your family. We already work mandatory overtime of usually an hour and a half per day to 11 hours or more. They cut routes to make decent days into long ones and we all know that peak there is no vacations, no 8 hour requests, and long, long days. So I think getting home between 8 and 9 at night 10 months a year plus 10 to 11 at night during peak is more than enough of my and my family's time. 20 lousy 8 hour days a year is the least they could do!
Ok then you managers are also on a 9 month window. You guys commit the same contract violation only once every 9 months then a slap on the wrist is all you get. The fact is that you managers commit the same contract violations over and over month after month. Sure a driver that misdelivers packages month after month should receive progressive punishment. But a misdelivery every 3 to 4 months just like a contract violation every 3 to 4 months are called being normal.
Ok sparky, since when do you think I am going to lose a grievance. If my steward and or business agent loses 5 times in a row then they should both be replaced. Why are you so scared of my proposal? Are you a repeat offender of contract violations big guy? Are you afraid of losing your job? You guys have progressive punishment for us yet you are not held to progressive punishment for your repeat contract violations. If you really cared about UPS you would agree that a manager who repeatedly month after month year after year that violated the contract costing UPS thousands of dollars, ruining employee morale, causing many employees to quit and generally deviding the company should be replaced. Managers are punished behind closed doors, have their raises and bonuses reduced, delayed, and cut entirely. It is so two faced when you send a driver packing and yet you keep a manager who blatantly continues to violate the contract day after day.
First of all not young, strike one on you.
Well said brother!
Let us not split hairs. If my manager has me off the clock between 8 hours and 8 hours and 10 or 15 minutes I would be ok. The problem is the 9 and 10 hours we are sent out with. And I did not ask for my manager to be fired for 1 minute violation guys. There has to be some reason to it all.
Hell Braveheart, they violate thier own UPS code of Conduct and Harrassment Policy on a daily basis. You're right, management gets a scolding behind doors, and so long as Atlanta never hears about it, that's where it ends. As long as management is able to keep it's own dirt within it's own district loop, where they are prorected by one another, the bigger the offender they become. I guess that's how the system has to work in order to remain in the top Fortune 500 and most admired. What a Joke!
