using your seniority to not work

[wilberforce15]

750 hours PT for a 1 year pension credit. Been that way since maybe 1997. Where have you been?

It may vary by region, but I've never heard of hours worked mattering for vacation.

Only for pension.

 

[PT Car Washer]

There's a guy in our center that has taken so much dead time. That not only is he not going to accrue pension for the year he's not going to have enough hours for vacations next year either.

How is that possible when UPS is paying either a bonus or a higher wage just to get employees to come to work?

 

[PT Car Washer]

It may vary by region, but I've never heard of hours worked mattering for vacation.

Only for pension.

Pension credit not vacation credit. But yes you do have to work enough hours to earn vacations.

 

[wilberforce15]

How is that possible when UPS is paying either a bonus or a higher wage just to get employees to come to work?

Sending a senior hourly home and having a supervisor cover the work is a great way to make production.

 

[Sixth Punch Sense]

How is that possible when UPS is paying either a bonus or a higher wage just to get employees to come to work?

Drivers don't get a bonus, his route is cut every day and he never demands his 8 or bumps on a route. Plus an off work injury

 

[wilberforce15]

Pension credit not vacation credit. But yes you do have to work enough hours to earn vacations.

I know for a fact that has never been enforced here. We have dozens of people (including myself) who work under the minimum for pension and vacation has never even been brought up.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Sending a senior hourly home and having a supervisor cover the work is a great way to make production.

Maybe in theory but in practice it results in a cluster. PT sups do have a function.

 

[Sixth Punch Sense]

I know for a fact that has never been enforced here. We have dozens of people (including myself) who work under the minimum for pension and vacation has never even been brought up.

Vacation credit is a much lower threshold then pension.

 

[wilberforce15]

Vacation credit is a much lower threshold then pension.

Whatever it is, I guarantee you we have people (including myself) who have worked under that number.

 

[Sixth Punch Sense]

Whatever it is, I guarantee you we have people (including myself) who have worked under that number.

I doubt it, UPS does not give out free money

 

[PT Car Washer]

Drivers don't get a bonus, his route is cut every day and he never demands his 8 or bumps on a route. Plus an off work injury

There are always some people trying to scam the system. Usually in the long run it does not pay.

 

[wilberforce15]

I doubt it, UPS does not give out free money

100% certain. We have guys under whatever number you want. Is it actually in the national contract? I confess I've never seen that.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Whatever it is, I guarantee you we have people (including myself) who have worked under that number.

Why would you?

 

[wilberforce15]

Why would you?

Because I'm only here for benefits. My benefits are worth more than my pay, even after 20 years seniority. There are lots of folks like me.

A plumber, carpenter, etc. might have a night job at UPS and love to go home any time, as long as he gets benefits.

 

[wilberforce15]

I get 1000-1500/mo plus copay differences just from status as an employee. That's what benefits are worth, or more. I don't even care if I get hourly pay. I'd love to work 5 minutes per week for free benefits.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Because I'm only here for benefits. My benefits are worth more than my pay, even after 20 years seniority. There are lots of folks like me.

A plumber, carpenter, etc. might have a night job at UPS and love to go home any time, as long as he gets benefits.

I guess I should be asking why would the company allow it?

 

[Sixth Punch Sense]

100% certain. We have guys under whatever number you want. Is it actually in the national contract? I confess I've never seen that.

I don't know the numbers, I'm only going off what a number of senior drivers have told me maybe

 

[wilberforce15]

I guess I should be asking why would the company allow it?

Because it saves their production.

They don't care about costs. They care about hours.

 

[PT Car Washer]

I get 1000-1500/mo plus copay differences just from status as an employee. That's what benefits are worth, or more. I don't even care if I get hourly pay. I'd love to work 5 minutes per week for free benefits.

We had a higher seniority PTer and a sympathetic manager that allowed the same. Doubt if it would work today.

 

[wilberforce15]

We had a higher seniority PTer and a sympathetic manager that allowed the same. Doubt if it would work today.

It's working at this very moment, so it must vary by location.