What will be an automatic NO vote for you?

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by wide load, Jun 10, 2018.

  1. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    The word on Sesame Street?
  2. They wanted to give us raises every other contract?
  3. Hazard

    Hazard Member

    I was being sarcastic
  4. bowhnterdon

    bowhnterdon Active Member

    I have been saying this for a while. Now that Supplements can and will be enforced, no doubt the Master is next.
  5. dogs.bite.me

    dogs.bite.me Active Member

    I've heard about these 22.4 jobs. Why are you so against it? Just curious.

    I don't know how to think about them yet, as I haven't seen any language on them. So I don't know what to think but I've seen a few people on here saying auto no if they are included. What are your concerns about them?
  6. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    So that's 2 people that have no idea how any of this works.
  7. bowhnterdon

    bowhnterdon Active Member

    Enlighten me. I read the constitution. Here is what I get, if I am wrong, explain it so we can be on the same page. If less than half vote(that is a given) and it is not a 2/3 majority no vote, the committee can impose agreement
  8. brown_trousers

    brown_trousers Well-Known Member

    I will be expecting part-timers to get the biggest improvements in this contract. the amount we pay our part-timers and the way we treat them, i wouldn't blame them if they crossed the picket line to work. We are creating an anti-union generation of workers. It will bite us in the ass in the future if we dont fix it.
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  9. eats packages

    eats packages Tetris Master

    It is simply just the absolute and near-total certainty that the 22.4 jobs will be used to lower overall driver wages, advance volume and cut routes from M-F, and ease into potential sunday deliveries.

    Who knows. Getting to load your own PC is really not that bad of an idea.
  10. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Too many ways for the company to take advantage of it. The language would have to be absolutely stellar for me to vote Yes on it.

    They would need to pay them the same wage as FT drivers for one. Limit the amount of positions, days they could deliver and stops they could do.

    The company would use it to cut routes and cut full time driving positions. There are just to many ways the company could use it to screw us. Even good language they could ignore and just pay grievance just like they do in some areas for 9.5 violations.
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  11. bowhnterdon

    bowhnterdon Active Member

    You were very quick to call me uninformed, am I wrong? I kinda hope I am..
  12. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    That's how brownslave is. He likes to jump on people hard right out the gate. :)
  13. wide load

    wide load Starting wage is a waste of time.

    What do you think the penalty will be? If you thought none, you’re probably right.
  14. wide load

    wide load Starting wage is a waste of time.

    That’s hot!
  15. burrheadd

    burrheadd KING Of GIFS

    I’am afraid there’s a lot more than 2
  16. SweatPit

    SweatPit i won't bite

    I doubt it will go to 1. I hope they drope it to 3. Really crossing my fingers on that.
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  17. bowhnterdon

    bowhnterdon Active Member

  18. You could work at FedEx and only take you 20 years to top out...
  19. Scottyhawk

    Scottyhawk What is it? A brown box. Duh

    Non consecutive days off is an automatic no
  20. Ghost in the Darkness

    Ghost in the Darkness Well-Known Member

    I will just say there needs to be considerable progress in many areas for me to even consider voting yes. I'm expecting some progress to avoid a strike with the typical weak contract language we always get. Needless to say its more of the same, and another no vote from me.
  21. Without sounding like I'm from upstate NY I'd say give it a chance.
    At least they took a strike authorization vote this time...for what that's worth .