brett636
Well-Known Member
I will gladly take George W Bush back over this fool. He is destroying future generations of Americans to fullfill his socialist utopian dreams.
Whats wrong with President Obama?
- Thread starter MechanicForBrown
- Start date
I will gladly take George W Bush back over this fool. He is destroying future generations of Americans to fullfill his socialist utopian dreams.
diesel96
Well-Known Member
Klein, lets keep thing in perspective....you are debating with the peanut gallery......the disgruntled minority of this country who's neo-con idealogy recieved a can of whoop-ass last election.....they reluctantly accept responsibilty for nearly causing another "Great Depression" era and blaming Obama for everthing including creating more debt out of the blue. Spinning the truth is their only avenue to regain power, however most economist agree, in order to stimulate the economy, we must spend and invest domestically....Some say, we'll need to spend even more for more effective stimulus...what's the Right Wing solution, do nothing and give tax breaks to the rich and powerful....fear and scare tactics by using words like socialist and communism is falling on deaf ears. Hike up your skirts republicans, your idealogy is a failure, so your only hope is to sabotage the new administration.....Canadians, don't sterotype Americans from this or any other forums....there's many different views expressed in the USA, but the popular opinion trumps them all....an Obama, so far has a clear advantage of support, especially way over that of the previous administration....flame on
ajblakejr
Age quod agis
klein
Für Meno :)
Diesel, finally someone normal on here. They all seem to be rednecks on here, or think that brown uniform is German History.
It;'s the best thing that could have happened to the States... for Obama to get elected.
Bush, left the country in turmoil.. I follow news, politics very well.
Bush, spent, spent and spent, .
And then these tough times came along... No more money to finance anything. No penny left set aside !
Was only a matter of time.
Stimulus program, every westernized and asian country did it.
But, they were much better off , because they we'rent already broke, unlike the americans.
You got more to swallow now.
But, don't blame that one on Obama !
Clinton left the country in a surplus... Bush ruined it. Not just because of wars, but tax relief and free medicare for 65+ .
It;'s the best thing that could have happened to the States... for Obama to get elected.
Bush, left the country in turmoil.. I follow news, politics very well.
Bush, spent, spent and spent, .
And then these tough times came along... No more money to finance anything. No penny left set aside !
Was only a matter of time.
Stimulus program, every westernized and asian country did it.
But, they were much better off , because they we'rent already broke, unlike the americans.
You got more to swallow now.
But, don't blame that one on Obama !
Clinton left the country in a surplus... Bush ruined it. Not just because of wars, but tax relief and free medicare for 65+ .
You're blaming Bush for Medicare? That's been around since Lyndon Johnson hasn't it?
klein
Für Meno :)
NO, it wasn;t ! I can't understand you guys, you don't follow your own news, you own federal spending. A canadaian has to tell you.
That percriptions for anyone over the age of 65 is free since a few years. Bush signed that deal !
Unless Canadian news is wrong, I am not lying... I will even serch the net now...just for you !
That percriptions for anyone over the age of 65 is free since a few years. Bush signed that deal !
Unless Canadian news is wrong, I am not lying... I will even serch the net now...just for you !
klein
Für Meno :)
here's your link, from cnn.com Bush inplemented it in 2003. Gonna cost trillions in time... with baby boomers, retiring...
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/12/08/elec04.medicare/
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/12/08/elec04.medicare/
Babagounj
Strength through joy
I asked this in another post....Don't you have spell check installed ?
I think you are wrong about the meds are free for 65+, if it were true then why are so many not getting them, or in some cases importing them form Mexico & Canada ?
klein
Für Meno :)
here, try this link : http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/12/08/elec04.medicare/
Thats the bill Bush put thru in 2003
Thats the bill Bush put thru in 2003
What you said was "free medicare for for 65+", not "improved prescription drug benefit". Medicare itself has been around since 1965.
things2auction
Well-Known Member
You make it seem like all we did was come in, drop a couple bombs and that was the end of it. Millions of Americans fought in WW2, and hundreds of thousands lost their lives. In regards to the bombs, the belief at the time was that using the bomb would make the Japanese surrender, when they didn't after the first bomb, we dropped a second one. Was it necessary to drop two? Its debatable, but who knows how many lives were saved by us not having to invade Japan. I wouldn't say its one of our proudest moments though.
The US economy has gone though a number of booms and busts over the years. I think you underestimate the resilience of the US population. As long as the government doesn't mess things up too much we will eventually recover and our economy will start booming again.
And you are right Canada's debt is much smaller than ours, but per capita ours in only about 35% higher.
klein
Für Meno :)
How do you get 35% per capita ? Before the stimulus program hit here, every Canadian was $2000 in debt (goverment debt).. Americans are at $35.000 (that just goverment debt) as soon as you are born, you owe $35.000 !
That will atleast double by 2017... to about $80.000.
A family of 4 is then basically $360.000 in debt (that's just goverment debt, not your personal loans or mortages)... getting close to a million ! Good luck paying that back !
The bank of Canada annouced yesterday, we are on the road to recovery. Recession is over here. I hope they are right.
But, the figures speak for themselves..GDP is in positive, Retail is up, Housing, etc.
I just don't know if we can make it out, without the US being on track.
That will atleast double by 2017... to about $80.000.
A family of 4 is then basically $360.000 in debt (that's just goverment debt, not your personal loans or mortages)... getting close to a million ! Good luck paying that back !
The bank of Canada annouced yesterday, we are on the road to recovery. Recession is over here. I hope they are right.
But, the figures speak for themselves..GDP is in positive, Retail is up, Housing, etc.
I just don't know if we can make it out, without the US being on track.
av8torntn
Well-Known Member
It may double now it may not. Bush left office with a projected budget surplus. Zero our new President is trying his best to spend money he doesn't have. Problem is the President does not spend money our Congress does and one of the beautiful things about our system of government is that we can change the entire house every two years and since spending has to start there things may very well turn and we can possibly take our country back from these radical politicians.
klein
Für Meno :)
Your info is wrong. There was never a surpus predicted.
I didn't want to say anything actually.
But, while I'm here...
Yes, if those debts keep skyrocketing.... Obama may have to rejoin Africa, and USA won't be the same... it'll be United States of Africa !
Thats being very harsch and critical, and will take that back.
But, it does worry me, the huge debt burden you have, and it's growing and growing and growing !
I didn't want to say anything actually.
But, while I'm here...
Yes, if those debts keep skyrocketing.... Obama may have to rejoin Africa, and USA won't be the same... it'll be United States of Africa !
Thats being very harsch and critical, and will take that back.
But, it does worry me, the huge debt burden you have, and it's growing and growing and growing !
Similar threads
