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Why shouldn't we strike?
- Thread starter Dr.Brownz
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I read the first three pages and then jumped to the last. I've got 29 years in the game. #1, you are labor. Simple labor. If you get along with your customers and they think you are awesome, fantastic. You are what used to make this company great. The Teamsters managed our retirement just as well as Social Security managed "your" retirement account. As a feeder driver my total compensation 2016 was $142,000. Great pay, great benefits, 
ty pension, but at least I have one. Not the company's fault but the unions. How much public support will we get for another "Unfair labor practices" strike? We lost a load of business that no longer had confidence in us in '97. A lot never came back. Keep what we have, protect our interests by limiting/stopping subcontracting. Take care of the PT'ers, preserve our Health care and do not extend progression. A cost of living allowance or fair wage progression will keep (most) everyone happy and keep us secure for another 4-6 years. You can buy stock at a 10% discount so you've already got a little jingle down the road plus quarterly dividends. Think for yourself and your future, we need the younger teamster's to carry our asses thru our Ponzy scheme of a pension.
ty pension, but at least I have one. Not the company's fault but the unions. How much public support will we get for another "Unfair labor practices" strike? We lost a load of business that no longer had confidence in us in '97. A lot never came back. Keep what we have, protect our interests by limiting/stopping subcontracting. Take care of the PT'ers, preserve our Health care and do not extend progression. A cost of living allowance or fair wage progression will keep (most) everyone happy and keep us secure for another 4-6 years. You can buy stock at a 10% discount so you've already got a little jingle down the road plus quarterly dividends. Think for yourself and your future, we need the younger teamster's to carry our asses thru our Ponzy scheme of a pension.
rod
Retired 22 years
I read the first three pages and then jumped to the last. I've got 29 years in the game. #1, you are labor. Simple labor. If you get along with your customers and they think you are awesome, fantastic. You are what used to make this company great. The Teamsters managed our retirement just as well as Social Security managed "your" retirement account. As a feeder driver my total compensation 2016 was $142,000. Great pay, great benefits,
If you are looking for the younger crowd to carry you---------good luck. dream on. They will sell out your pension for a Tootsie-pop.
rod
Retired 22 years
I think I had one Herbal Life shipper who maybe had two boxes a week to ship leave---or maybe they just died---who knows.
rod
Retired 22 years
I read the first three pages and then jumped to the last. I've got 29 years in the game. #1, you are labor. Simple labor. If you get along with your customers and they think you are awesome, fantastic. You are what used to make this company great. The Teamsters managed our retirement just as well as Social Security managed "your" retirement account. As a feeder driver my total compensation 2016 was $142,000. Great pay, great benefits,
No one gives a crap about the 97 strike. The basic shippers (UPS, FedEx and the USPS) are still the only ones in the game and with all the internet sales now NONE of them will go out of business if UPS workers strike. It would be just like the last 2 strikes. Everyone panics, shipments get back up and after the strike within a few weeks things would be back to just about normal. Its like when Trump won and all of Hollywood was going to move to Canada. Lots of idle threats. I can guarantee one thing---if everyone is willing to just roll over and play dead you won't get jack .... and be real lucky to keep half of what others have fought for.
fedx
Extra Large Package
Plus it would be hard to gain public sympathy when the average package car driver makes around $80K a year. Average Joe citizens would be like, "Yeah, go on strike! Down with UPS under paying their workers.....wait what? They make $80,000/yr on average? That's twice as much as I make and I don't get to go on strike."
1989
Well-Known Member
Amazon was only using the post office (book rate) in '97.
Covemastah
Hoopah drives the boat Chief !!
Covemastah
Hoopah drives the boat Chief !!
I think we had Amazon back then , they were just shipping books and cd's back then , their competition I believe was cd.com or something like that, Amazon was not a giant like today !!
olroadbeech
Happy Verified UPSer
Excellent post.I read the first three pages and then jumped to the last. I've got 29 years in the game. #1, you are labor. Simple labor. If you get along with your customers and they think you are awesome, fantastic. You are what used to make this company great. The Teamsters managed our retirement just as well as Social Security managed "your" retirement account. As a feeder driver my total compensation 2016 was $142,000. Great pay, great benefits,
I think you are right about the public not supporting another strike. even though the economy is going well , UPS would make public that most drivers are making over 100k in wages and bennies. In 1997 they told the public that we were making 50k and that surprised a lot of people. customers were asking me if that was true.
also , i think we lost that 97 strike. a lot of business went away. I was laid off a lot and went from feeder to back into the building a couple days a week when things got real slow after the holidays. being on call sucked.
last thing. there is a lot more competition now compared to 97. all the other companies will be ready if Teamsters strike. I bet they have a plan in place in case that happens. Especially Bezo.
1989
Well-Known Member
No, I submitted many sales leads at that time. Bezos told me we couldn't compete with the po rates at that time.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
As a feeder driver my total compensation 2016 was $142,000. Great pay, great benefits,
How is it the Unions' fault, you have a self described
y pension ?And the company, was so much better at running the management pension plan ?
Isn't the management plan underfunded by 10 billion dollars ?
What Teamster plan are you in ?
-Bug-
What'dyabringmetoday???
Banned
UnconTROLLed
perfection
Yet no one knows how many there are, if the contract numbers have been met, and so on...
specter208
Well-Known Member
The union should get everyone to vote right at the buildings instead of mailing ballots that get thrown in the trash.
upschuck
Well-Known Member
Nope, it is sent in, to keep any funny business from happening.
Impasse?
MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
You mean like passing a contract that hasn't been ratified by its members???
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