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tonyexpress

Whac-A-Troll Patrol
Staff member
I see the Teslas were rated real low in reliability. Seems like they have lots of squeeks and rattles and doors and windows that don't shut properly. Also it sounds like the batteries aren't lasting like they should and that is a MAJOR expense.

Tesla Model S reliability deemed 'worse than average'

It concluded that Tesla makes a new type of high-tech, high-performance, high-mileage electric vehicle, one that's made with ever-evolving and complex assembly line updates and therefore it isn't too surprising to see problems pop up like this.

Hey Rod, This isn't your grandfather's Buick, after all.

Silver lining

There is some good news for current and future Model S owners: it's very likely that Model Ses on the road are still covered by Tesla's four-year/50,000 mile bumper-to-bumper warranty plus its eight-year/unlimited mileage battery and drivetrain warranty.

Despite the issues, owner satisfaction hasn't suffered, and 97% of current Model S owners said they'd get another one, no question. The high satisfaction is due in no small part to Tesla's responsiveness to customer complaints and speed in replacing problem parts.
 

Jones

fILE A GRIEVE!
Staff member
Tesla might have it's issues but it's a step in the right direction. We need to cut our fossil fuel consumption pretty dramatically if we're ever going shake our dependence on foreign oil.
 

rod

Retired 22 years
Tesla might have it's issues but it's a step in the right direction. We need to cut our fossil fuel consumption pretty dramatically if we're ever going shake our dependence on foreign oil.


We've got oil we don't know what to do with. Every RR siding in miles has full tank cars just sitting because all the storage places are full.
 

Jones

fILE A GRIEVE!
Staff member
We've got oil we don't know what to do with. Every RR siding in miles has full tank cars just sitting because all the storage places are full.
We burn through 7 billion barrels a year, I think we know what to do with it. Proven reserves of technically recoverable oil are about 36 billion barrels. The EIA estimates undiscovered reserves to be an additional 198 billion barrels. Assuming they're right that gives us around a 30 year supply at current consumption levels so we got some time to figure out what to do next but we shouldn't put it off til the last minute.
 

rod

Retired 22 years
We burn through 7 billion barrels a year, I think we know what to do with it. Proven reserves of technically recoverable oil are about 36 billion barrels. The EIA estimates undiscovered reserves to be an additional 198 billion barrels. Assuming they're right that gives us around a 30 year supply at current consumption levels so we got some time to figure out what to do next but we shouldn't put it off til the last minute.


We could always go back to steam engines burning coal. There are hundreds of years worth of coal reserves:-)
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
Nice group that G7.
With most of them taking in migrants in the thousands , how are they going to provide employment , housing and food for them without changing their current goals ?
 

wkmac

Well-Known Member
Great plan selling oil that cost $70+ a barrel for less than $50 a barrel .
Nothing like dumping more oil into a market that is still dropping in price .

Study John D. Rockefeller and how he built his oil empire used this method above of which you speak which is not new at all. John D. used this practice to crush competitors who would not sell out to him. Now used by geo-political/economic cartels as we see today.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
Comparing Rockefeller with the current administration is foolish .
Rockefeller was out to make money , while our gov't knows only how to spent your tax dollars .
 

wayfair

swollen member
How much debt is California in?
How much do they owe the state employees?
Why do they need a $60 billion train?
Where is the land for the $60 billion train?
 

rod

Retired 22 years
How much debt is California in?
How much do they owe the state employees?
Why do they need a $60 billion train?
Where is the land for the $60 billion train?

Its sad that most towns of any size at one time had all the infrastructure in place for street cars (I realize that wouldn't work for high speed stuff). Even my small town at one time had a system that ran from one end of town to the other ---both north and south and east and west. In the 50's or so all that got tore up in favor of smelly old busses. Now there are no busses or any other kinds of mass transit. Its costing the Metro area billions of dollars to rebuild their mass transit system (a light rail system) that was tore up about the same time as everyone elses.

 
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