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Sometimes i feel like a nut sometimes i dont
You want him to cry?Is that a real question? Have a chat with the UPS guys on your route and find out how much they're taking home.
You want him to cry?Is that a real question? Have a chat with the UPS guys on your route and find out how much they're taking home.
I see.
So your comfortable with the double standard of UPS pay & benefits while it's OK for someone else to accept low wages with no benefits for doing the same work? Also you seem to like the proposed two-tier wage scale that would affect newer UPS employees. Right?
That's right. And if YOU and your fellow couriers weren't OK with it, you would have organized by now, RLA be damned. Everybody knows the lay of the playing field and few do anything to change it.
I don't see the UPS contract going backwards, unless the company is bleeding $. Just my opinion.I do not like the two-tiered wage system but do see where it would make sense for UPS to pursue it. Ground has proven that the job can be done in a satisfactory manner with much lower operating costs. I also do not like the compensation of the average Ground driver but do see where it makes economic sense.
Would I do the job for $15/hr? No but unlike most people here I have options which would allow me to work elsewhere.
Ground has certainly changed the rules and will have a huge impact on our 2018 contract negotiations.
I don't see the UPS contract going backwards, unless the company is bleeding $. Just my opinion.
It doesn't make sense, unless you advocate for driving wages down for all Americans and widening the wealth gap.I do not like the two-tiered wage system but do see where it would make sense for UPS to pursue it. Ground has proven that the job can be done in a satisfactory manner with much lower operating costs. I also do not like the compensation of the average Ground driver but do see where it makes economic sense.
Would I do the job for $15/hr? No but unlike most people here I have options which would allow me to work elsewhere.
It doesn't make sense, unless you advocate for driving wages down for all Americans and widening the wealth gap.
Exactly. If you don't care about the future of your fellow American worker, your children, your grandchildren, and so forth, it makes sense.It makes sense from a corporate perspective.
Exactly. If you don't care about the future of your fellow American worker, your children, your grandchildren, and so forth, it makes sense.
That's right. And if YOU and your fellow couriers weren't OK with it, you would have organized by now, RLA be damned. Everybody knows the lay of the playing field and few do anything to change it.
It's union kryptonite right up until the company pushes things too far and you and the vast majority of couriers decide you've had enough nationwide. Here on BC you've more than reached that point. In the real world? Not so much.Bullshat. The RLA is union Kryptonite and you know it. As long as it is in place, the Teamsters consider us untouchables.
You are Fred's puppet, and allow him to have a low cost Ground division that isn't independent in any sense of the word.
Scam.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/scamBullshat. The RLA is union Kryptonite and you know it. As long as it is in place, the Teamsters consider us untouchables.
You are Fred's puppet, and allow him to have a low cost Ground division that isn't independent in any sense of the word.
Scam.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/scam
Here's the definition. How in your opinion the Ground model fi? I see you throw the word around but it seems that what you are really saying is that you simply don't like it.
I know you like it. Who is being swindled and how?I like definition #1, the swindle.
Out of curiosity, how do you know that most people here don't have other options? Is this based on fact or are you assuming?I do not like the two-tiered wage system but do see where it would make sense for UPS to pursue it. Ground has proven that the job can be done in a satisfactory manner with much lower operating costs. I also do not like the compensation of the average Ground driver but do see where it makes economic sense.
Would I do the job for $15/hr? No but unlike most people here I have options which would allow me to work elsewhere.
Ground has certainly changed the rules and will have a huge impact on our 2018 contract negotiations.
Out of curiosity, how do you know that most people here don't have other options? Is this based on fact or are you assuming?
I care about my pension and a secure UPS means a secure pension.
If I were to quit and go to Ground it would be as a contractor, not a driver.
Then, do it, and quit talking about something you don't really understand. Actually, Ground synchs quite well with the Libertarian exploitation of labor mindset.