Another way to look at the vote yes position

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by 2033, Aug 9, 2018.

  1. BrownRecycler

    BrownRecycler Member

    If that was the case, what contractual language that pertain to these struggling region so it not abuse for other regions?

    Could it be like, specifying the region in the contract to exclude the 22.4 language?
  2. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    My thinking is that the regions that have cover drivers that are not full time drivers should fix their language, rather than using the master to spread the problem nationwide. In my hypothetical a few posts back I was trying to speculate about the union's thinking while giving them the benefit of the doubt. The answers they are giving don't exactly add up, so I'm trying to fill in the gaps.
  3. Mooseknuckle

    Mooseknuckle Active Member

    You're right. The problem isn't the language though, it's that they didn't enforce it. The bigger problem is that they accepted it and let it go for years. now, the amount of back pay is so huge that they know they'll never get it so they just want to eliminated it by getting rid of the language. The company saw the amount of money they were saving and want to take it to the national level. The two sides set out to "fix" their mutual problem.
  4. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    That just makes it sound worse. This is lala land, where we are assuming the union isn't corrupt or incompetent. Got any ideas on how to explain the union's actions based on the assumption that they are actually looking out for us?
  5. Mooseknuckle

    Mooseknuckle Active Member

    I do not