Contract Change proposals. "On Topic Only Please"
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Integrity
Binge Poster
You are entitled to your opinion.
For years the union has asked for contract language proposals prior to negotiations.
I would expect any changes to the TA to be done in the same fashion.
Not trying to sell anything.
Vote as you see fit.
Integrity
Binge Poster
I believe this is important.
It is specific.
It is no wholesale condemnation of language, it is not adding language it is changing Wed to Sun to Sun to Thur which I believe is important.
I also believe that although improbable it is possibly winnable in negotiations.
Integrity
Binge Poster
Do the mechanics in your area have their own supplement?
Integrity
Binge Poster
Good plan.
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Frankie's Friend
Guest
A little late for proposals dude. We haven't seen the supplements or voted and you're telling us to write up language and content that you would like.
You opened the door.
And so you judge others responses because it isn't written in USNY style. SMH
There you go. Supplements aren't out yet and you're asking people to rewrite the NMA.
Dude, let people vote and then if if doesn't pass you can come on here and give blue collar workers lessons in English literature and sentence compositions.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
So you think those three words are all that needs to be changed? In your mind, are all the concessions really okay? What is the most important 'win' in this contract in your mind?
Integrity
Binge Poster
I am most uncomfortable with a wed-sun shift being allowed.
There were three concessions mentioned in the conference call.
IMO
New language cannot really be viewed as a concession. It is trying to create language to resolve a problem or deal with a new climate or strategy. In this case how to man a new 7 day work week that is coming.
Not looking at part time weekend jobs as a way to man the weekend work now and in the future.
Protection of Senior Full Time package car drivers from working weekends if they don't want to.
trickpony1
Well-Known Member
Be sure to use your signature I after every post otherwise we may not know it's really you.
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Frankie's Friend
Guest
You mean seniority Full Time package car drivers?
Protect them all.
Your assumption that "senior" means something in a hearing shows that you're mistaken.
Heavy Package
Well-Known Member
Yes, I am. And I will be silently voting "NO".
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MenInBrown
Guest
I agree. Really really dumb thread. Plenty of other threads discussing the changes people would make. Now we need a thread for someone to criticize how your ideas are written? Sorry, we don’t need anymore language that is vague and slight of hand. Go to all the other threads and read them then you will know what everyone wants changed.
boxmonkey3
Member
I think combo drivers pay should be the same as regular drivers, including their OT rate. At least while they’re driving.
Less incentive for UPS to give them our work.
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Frankie's Friend
Guest
Again,
Why are we focusing on rewriting the NMA?!
When the supplements come out there may be language restricting the master language in our area so we are wasting time with this thread.
We've got a vote coming up. Work within your building to educate members when all of the language is presented.
This is a waste of time.
Btw: years ago there was a "pt time" steward from the southern region who posted here often. He told of one time at a local union meeting their members put the BA on "blast" in front of the rest of the members and it was effective to get the BAs mind right.
Soft politics doesn't always affect the pressing changes that need to be made.
Why are we focusing on rewriting the NMA?!
When the supplements come out there may be language restricting the master language in our area so we are wasting time with this thread.
We've got a vote coming up. Work within your building to educate members when all of the language is presented.
This is a waste of time.
Btw: years ago there was a "pt time" steward from the southern region who posted here often. He told of one time at a local union meeting their members put the BA on "blast" in front of the rest of the members and it was effective to get the BAs mind right.
Soft politics doesn't always affect the pressing changes that need to be made.
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MenInBrown
Guest
Wasn’t there some part of the Master that states the supplements cannot change?
Integrity
Binge Poster
No thank you for the suggestion.
I have gotten away from that style.
I limit that to the OP of threads that I start.
Integrity
Binge Poster
The
The most senior of those with seniority deserve the most protection. In accordance with their seniority that is.
All seniority is not equal.
The most senior of those with seniority deserve the most protection. In accordance with their seniority that is.
Integrity
Binge Poster
Integrity
Binge Poster
I have been to other threads. I have not found that to be the case.
Thank you for the suggestion though.
