We will see when we actually get dirty with the details of the proposal, but from what my BA told me today, this appears--APPEARS--to be a good deal for us. I heard improved language about the cardinal sin clause, the $4400 accident clause that means automatic suspension has been eliminated, and increased pension contributions. After the union meeting I attended a few weeks back, I'm not sure how much good a few extra hundred dollars a month will mean for us who have a ways to go until retirement. When Central States tells you they pay out two for every one they bring in, and that the only way they can turn that around is help from Congress--GULP!!--that doesn't make me feel too comfortable. But that is another conversation. Again, I'll make the final judgement when the concrete sets, BUT, tentatively, I have to give props to hall. He seems to have done a excellent job against water bottle of douche bags in the bargaining room. Now, I'll never be satisfied with Jimmy Hoffa. Never have, and never will, so shut up about it. But he kept hall as chief negotiator, so I'll ignore his screw-ups if our canoe keeps flowing downstream. So, until I get the details, I will say, good job Ken.