Feeder School

Almost

Member
Been a long time since I've been through training but beyond training this is the best advice I can give you.

Loose the pkg car attitude. Can't stress that enough.

Develop your routine and don't deviate from it. If you get distracted or stop to talk to someone, Double check the steps in your routine before resuming it. This will prevent you from stupid accidents like dropping a trailer because you were chatting with another driver or driving away with the fuel hose in the tank. I've seen it happen. And no, I haven't done it.

Double check everything!

Don't be afraid to ask any driver for help or a question. I've only know a few that wouldn't help and they are a__holes anyway.
 

MN-Kid

Member
Thanks for all the advice. I’m just trying to make sure I’m up for feeders. Would anyone know where you end up as to routes once you come out of school? My schedule is set now, but with a family I’m trying just to make sure there is some flexibility. Like are most routes M-friend or Tues-Sat? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
 

retiredTxfeeder

cap'n crunch
Thanks for all the advice. I’m just trying to make sure I’m up for feeders. Would anyone know where you end up as to routes once you come out of school? My schedule is set now, but with a family I’m trying just to make sure there is some flexibility. Like are most routes M-friend or Tues-Sat? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Usually it's on call for a while. Then bottom of the list coverage driver. After a year or so, maybe you'll get to actually get a bid job, but it will be the job that every driver ahead of you passed on because it sucked that bad. Times in each phase may be different depending on your location. Every feeder driver goes through it. It's part of paying your dues. (figuratively, not literally)
 

MN-Kid

Member
Usually it's on call for a while. Then bottom of the list coverage driver. After a year or so, maybe you'll get to actually get a bid job, but it will be the job that every driver ahead of you passed on because it sucked that bad. Times in each phase may be different depending on your location. Every feeder driver goes through it. It's part of paying your dues. (figuratively, not literally)
Thanks for the response
 

quad decade guy

Well-Known Member
Afternoon,
If I can get some honest answers, I would appreciate it. Going to be starting feeder school soon, and wondering how difficult it is. Coming to school with 25years as a driver and a little nervous about training. Not so much the driving as I am about the pre-trip stuff and testing. Would anyone be willing to share helpful information?

Thanks

Try to remember getting bent over as a rookie pkg driver. Just like that except at night and weekends.
 

Yeet

Not gonna let ‘em catch the Midnight Rider
we did complete pre trip and then once you got through the pre trip you go to the driving part. But part of the driving was you had to do a section of the vehicle (at random) and air brakes.
For us a portion of the Pretrip was picked at random, you didn’t have to do the whole thing but you didn’t know which portion you were going to get ahead of time so you had better know it all. You either got form A,B, or C. After that was the incab then backing then driving.
 

Jones

fILE A GRIEVE!
Staff member
Thanks for all the advice. I’m just trying to make sure I’m up for feeders. Would anyone know where you end up as to routes once you come out of school? My schedule is set now, but with a family I’m trying just to make sure there is some flexibility. Like are most routes M-friend or Tues-Sat? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
We have all different schedules, M-friend, T-S, and Sun- Thur, starting at all hours of the day and night. Also have 4-10's which a lot of guys like. A lot depends on the size of your feeder dept, how much seniority you have now, and whether or not you have classification seniority in your local.
 

barnyard

KTM rider
STPMN has at least 26 different feeder start times throughout the day. My peak job was a SU-TH gig. I know you could be looking at Su-Th some weeks and Mo-Fr other weeks. You could go to the feeder office and see where you would be in the seniority list. That will tell you if you have a shot at a FT gig or if you will be stuck with cover and potentially for how long. I know that at MINMN, the shifting is all done by higher seniority guys.

I would imagine that there will be a bunch of retirements this year. Check the vaca scedule. Guys that are taking all their weeks together are probably retiring.
 

MN-Kid

Member
Am scheduled to start feeder school in February. Worried a little about the actual school. Just wondering if someone can give me some insight on this. If it helps, most likely will be in school at Eagan Mn Facility.
26 Years. 19 FullTime. Just looking for what to expect. Thanks
 

barnyard

KTM rider
The 1st day, you will go over the 5 keys, 10 point commentary and all that. You will also go over logging (we use the ivis as a log, but you will be expected to know how to use a log book.) You will do a pretrip, connect to a trailer and go driving.

The start of every day will be writing out the 5 keys and 10 point commentary. I can't remember if I built a set on my 2nd or 3rd day. We drove to Cannon Falls and Red Wing the 1st couple of days. The 3rd and 4th were more in town driving.

You should have your temps before starting, there should be a state-certified UPS supe that performs your on-road driving test. I did mine on Friday morning, we spent the rest of the time driving to the rest of the buildings in the metro and the railyard.
 

MN-Kid

Member
The 1st day, you will go over the 5 keys, 10 point commentary and all that. You will also go over logging (we use the ivis as a log, but you will be expected to know how to use a log book.) You will do a pretrip, connect to a trailer and go driving.

The start of every day will be writing out the 5 keys and 10 point commentary. I can't remember if I built a set on my 2nd or 3rd day. We drove to Cannon Falls and Red Wing the 1st couple of days. The 3rd and 4th were more in town driving.

You should have your temps before starting, there should be a state-certified UPS supe that performs your on-road driving test. I did mine on Friday morning, we spent the rest of the time driving to the rest of the buildings in the metro and the railyard.
 

MN-Kid

Member
Thanks. I appreciate this. Gives me a little heads up as to what to expect. HR advised me that they are looking at week 1 or 2 of February.
 

olroadbeech

Happy Verified UPSer
I know why you're stressing but you have a solid foundation with your experience . The training at our hub was excellent.
The majority of field training is repetition repetition repetition. pre trips over and over and over.
making and breaking up sets over and over and over. ( if you hub has doubles and/or triples like ours )
backing, backing , and more backing.

after awhile , everything will be second nature.

Most trainees will say that the memorizing of seeing habits and the commentary ( gee , how would I know this? ) was the hardest part and the actual driving not so bad. It's just bigger equipment.

the best thing about feeder is that there is no rush. safety is so HUGE the trainers want you to succeed. as long as you take your time and stay focused you should be alright.

check back when you have passed.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
The majority of field training is repetition repetition repetition. pre trips over and over and over.
making and breaking up sets over and over and over.
Lol, wut?
They didn't really go over pre trip at all. Gave us a handout on it and said you're on your own if you want to pass the cdl test.

I think I built like three sets during my first week and maybe two my production week.
 

barnyard

KTM rider
They didn't really go over pre trip at all.

My trainer did.
I did a pretrip before we left the hub, every day. Most of the time, it was 2 per day and I had to have all the terms correct. I was stuck on remembering brake 'chambers.' For whatever reason, I could not remember 'chamber.' We talked about that quite a bit during one of the trips we did and I did a pretrip after that, including the correct terms.
 

Jones

fILE A GRIEVE!
Staff member
My trainer did.
I did a pretrip before we left the hub, every day. Most of the time, it was 2 per day and I had to have all the terms correct. I was stuck on remembering brake 'chambers.' For whatever reason, I could not remember 'chamber.' We talked about that quite a bit during one of the trips we did and I did a pretrip after that, including the correct terms.
Different strokes. Here they taught us the UPS pre-trip, but we were on our own as far as learning the pre-trip we had to do for our CDL test. And no they weren't the same, not even close really.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
My trainer did.
I did a pretrip before we left the hub, every day. Most of the time, it was 2 per day and I had to have all the terms correct. I was stuck on remembering brake 'chambers.' For whatever reason, I could not remember 'chamber.' We talked about that quite a bit during one of the trips we did and I did a pretrip after that, including the correct terms.
Day one they gave us a sheet step by step how to do it. Told us to come in early and practice it on our own, and said to go by the shop and ask the mechanic if we had any questions. Day five they made sure we knew it.

The whole process was kind of a joke I'm not gonna lie.
 
Top