Catatonic
Nine Lives
This is the real fight.
Even Ryan's budget still puts the US another trillion dollars in debt every year.
Government Shutdown / Congress and the Senate
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This is the real fight.
Even Ryan's budget still puts the US another trillion dollars in debt every year.
brett636
Well-Known Member
Exactly, and even that is an unacceptable budget if it has us running deficits that large. We either put an end to this madness now, or let it consume us later.
Agreed. It is going to be BAD TIMES to take care of this. Better to do it now, and get it ove with.
wkmac
Well-Known Member
God point Hoax. Damn if you do and damn if you don't!
Throwing aside the fact that the gov't really isn't shutdown but it plays well for both sides, this does stab right to the heart of the problem. If anything will in time and due course ultimately shut down gov't, it is the fact that money spent by both sides is money neither has nor will have. Something has to be cut, one side wants to cut this and the other cut that so they just cut nothing and hope to kick the can down the road.
IMO they've finally hit the brick wall in that if they cut, regardless which side, bad things are going to likely happen or they raise the debt limit to keep the credit card usable and again bad things are likely going to happen, but avoiding their watch and moving it on to the next poor sap that runs for office. Regardless of which course they take, the reality is bad things are likely going to happen and I think they know but they lack the courage to man up and tell the American public the truth.
Sen. Reid showed his grammatical and etymological ignorance recently regarding the term anarchist but for the moment, let's assume the term does mean one who causes disorder and chaos. The only failure on Sen. Reid's part was he failed to include the entire Congress and the White House as the real root causes of the anarchy he alleged to protest.
The real anarchists like vultures are just sitting over the dying carcass in wait and watching it's death throes amazed how so many who love the state aren't willing to take the hit to actually save it. We smile as you approach death's door having done our work for us!
Think about it!
YES 9.5, deal with it now, jeopardize the credit markets, deflate the US dollar, lose our credit rating again, crash the economy, watch as oil prices spike to record levels.
Ya, I guess you could call that "bad times" in hopes of ending healthcare for millions of americans.
You people are clueless when it comes to running a nation, yet , you want a bigger military which eats A MAJORITY of federal spending. You also want invasion after invasion of muslim countries which costs trillions of dollars, 2 of your most recent invasions costing the US taxpayers 4 trillion dollars still has to be paid.
You act like this is some kind of game that needs to be won.
You want cuts? Ok, lets gut the military and bring military spending down to levels from the 70's.
We would save TRILLIONS.
Peace
TOS
island1fox
Well-Known Member
I am sure TOS speaks Chinese ---no chance of that ever happening if we totally gut the military.
Everyone loves us around the world --there is no evil --only the evil Republicans --LA LA LA --
Everyone loves us around the world --there is no evil --only the evil Republicans --LA LA LA --
Don't worry TOS, you're not alone. It's cowardly attitudes like yours that will ensure nothing ever gets done.
Keep kicking that can down the road!
moreluck
golden ticket member
Pentagon says charity will pay military death benefits, amid outrage over cut-off | Fox News
Obama could've stepped up and did the abracadabra executive order and fixed this and appeared the hero.........but he's a wuss and doesn't give a damn about the military.
Obama could've stepped up and did the abracadabra executive order and fixed this and appeared the hero.........but he's a wuss and doesn't give a damn about the military.
BrownArmy
Well-Known Member
The irony.
It's like Bill Murray in GhostBusters:
"Dogs and cats, living together!"
Democrats are voting against the Repubs who are trying to fund individual programs, like WIC, etc.!!?
Republicans are all of a sudden voting to fund many programs that they've been trying (successfully) to defund for years...
The world would be laughing at us, if the world wasn't so nervous...
It's like Bill Murray in GhostBusters:
"Dogs and cats, living together!"
Democrats are voting against the Repubs who are trying to fund individual programs, like WIC, etc.!!?
Republicans are all of a sudden voting to fund many programs that they've been trying (successfully) to defund for years...
The world would be laughing at us, if the world wasn't so nervous...
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Catatonic
Nine Lives
While I agree the amount spent on military is way too much, it is around 19% and 19% is rarely seen as a MAJORITY.
Maybe to a left-wing wacko liberal but not many others.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Or maybe we could close a few bases..... I think Germany might have cancelled their plans to take over the world, we could start with one of the 21 bases we have there.
How about we start cutting with your medicare benefits? Would you agree to that cut? I know I would as a taxpayer. You should have prepared better for your golden years and shouldnt have to rely on the goverment.
Let see what you say now.
Peace
TOS
wkmac
Well-Known Member
That's very republican of you.
moreluck
golden ticket member
You people act like Medicare is free. I am billed for Medicare (even though I paid into it all my working life). And I also am billed for my supplemental planF.
