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[ManInBrown]

THE SECOND THEY ASK YOU A QUESTION, PUT THAT AS YOUR START TIME! IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT YOUR "OFFICIAL START TIME" is. I sit and watch all the rookies get ambushed by on-cars 30 mins before the first PCM. Stand up for yourself and you will mysteriously find the unimportant crap stops!

Bingo. I shake my head when I see them talking to drivers before the start time. They know better with me. I won't even say good morning for free.

 

[FrigidFTSup]

well drivers complain about their retarded dispatch all the time, and as ignorant as most drivers are to why, it doesn't mean they're not right

so i guess i don't get what you're trying to say; are drivers/IE wrong? or do you just think that the decision that joe-blow PDS makes in Jerkwater center at 0200 AM is somehow the fault of IE?

if so, MFW:

I'm scheduled for a conference call tomorrow morning at 530 to explain why we missed a ridiculous SPC metric on Friday set by some dope in IE. The PDS had the choice to make Friday a 10.5 paid day or a 9.2 with a dispatch that made sense. I told him to go for the 9.2 because we got smoked the entire week and half the center would have grieved.

You set the idiotic goals. A huge amount of the dispatch problems are because you people make us jump through hoops to hit certain marks that just aren't achievable. We don't look at the real world. Maybe last year we had a bunch of tight stops, so we could get more on the cars and not really lengthen the days. Maybe this year the trend is more rural. Because I can tell you one thing, out here rural stops are exploding, and I can't dispatch a guy who does 225 miles with 175 stops if we are going to avoid missed/late/DOT violations.

 

[FrigidFTSup]

SPC is an adjustable guide; SPC doesn't tell a dispatcher to drag some driver out to the middle of nowhere for 1 stop, or have multiple drivers covering the same territory

you have a backing goal right? do you walk off a mile driveway, or roll back in neutral just to make that number? no of course you don't, you keep the number in mind, you do your job by the methods, and you trust that you'll be close enough

does your sup getting mad at you in the morning force you to go back out the next day and make bad decisions?
do you see how the same process applies to your management....?

I'll be sure to tell my division manager SPC is an "adjustable guide" tomorrow. He will love that.

 

[tourists24]

I'm scheduled for a conference call tomorrow morning at 530 to explain why we missed a ridiculous SPC metric on Friday set by some dope in IE. The PDS had the choice to make Friday a 10.5 paid day or a 9.2 with a dispatch that made sense. I told him to go for the 9.2 because we got smoked the entire week and half the center would have grieved.

You set the idiotic goals. A huge amount of the dispatch problems are because you people make us jump through hoops to hit certain marks that just aren't achievable. We don't look at the real world. Maybe last year we had a bunch of tight stops, so we could get more on the cars and not really lengthen the days. Maybe this year the trend is more rural. Because I can tell you one thing, out here rural stops are exploding, and I can't dispatch a guy who does 225 miles with 175 stops if we are going to avoid missed/late/DOT violations.

None of this is of concern to guys like Tears.... they are faceless cowards that are unaccountable for anything that happens past their computer goals.... they don't have to confront the people they are setting the agenda for

 

[FrigidFTSup]

None of this is of concern to guys like Tears.... they are faceless cowards that are unaccountable for anything that happens past their computer goals.... they don't have to confront the people they are setting the agenda for

No crap. When I have a question at 1705 I find they've been idle on Skype for 45 minutes. Probably already home watching My Little Pony.

 

[Hellobrown2000]

so is it or is it not true that centers are dictated how many routes they are "allowed" to have based on the numbers? How the centers can make that plan work is attainable if done correctly?

Routes allowed is not made by anyone in your building, nor probably the next guy after that. Just a guess though.

 

[FrigidFTSup]

Routes allowed is not made by anyone in your building, nor probably the next guy after that. Just a guess though.

It doesn't work like that. You get how many routes should be put on road for the forecasted volume/stops. If you exceed that and can still hit your defined goals by putting an additional car in you do it without asking anybody. It's the same if it goes the other way. Less volume/stops you cut them to maintain the SPC.

 

[ManInBrown]

None of this is of concern to guys like Tears.... they are faceless cowards that are unaccountable for anything that happens past their computer goals.... they don't have to confront the people they are setting the agenda for

Precisely why I said in another thread that I would love for an I.E. clown to visit my center and someone point them out. I'd laugh right in his or her face.

The geek wouldn't care but it would still make me feel good

 

[TearsInRain]

I'm scheduled for a conference call tomorrow morning at 530 to explain why we missed a ridiculous SPC metric on Friday set by some dope in IE. The PDS had the choice to make Friday a 10.5 paid day or a 9.2 with a dispatch that made sense. I told him to go for the 9.2 because we got smoked the entire week and half the center would have grieved.

You set the idiotic goals. A huge amount of the dispatch problems are because you people make us jump through hoops to hit certain marks that just aren't achievable. We don't look at the real world. Maybe last year we had a bunch of tight stops, so we could get more on the cars and not really lengthen the days. Maybe this year the trend is more rural. Because I can tell you one thing, out here rural stops are exploding, and I can't dispatch a guy who does 225 miles with 175 stops if we are going to avoid missed/late/DOT violations.

honestly it sounds like your IE guy sucks, but a chunk of that is your fault because you don't know how to put the squeeze on his section leader/coordinator for a bad plan day (it's easy)

 

[TearsInRain]

I'll be sure to tell my division manager SPC is an "adjustable guide" tomorrow. He will love that.

just throw your planner under the bus, ez pz

don't you know how to pass blame for BS at UPS? that's sup 101

 

[Coldworld]

Our center has a list, by route number, of our backing goals. Mine is 15.

We do have drivers who put it in neutral and coast backward just to not have it count as a back. Stupid.

Gamers... just as there are gamers who try to cheat to make bonus.... this company is FULL of this type of driver....fact

 

[Coldworld]

I'm scheduled for a conference call tomorrow morning at 530 to explain why we missed a ridiculous SPC metric on Friday set by some dope in IE. The PDS had the choice to make Friday a 10.5 paid day or a 9.2 with a dispatch that made sense. I told him to go for the 9.2 because we got smoked the entire week and half the center would have grieved.

You set the idiotic goals. A huge amount of the dispatch problems are because you people make us jump through hoops to hit certain marks that just aren't achievable. We don't look at the real world. Maybe last year we had a bunch of tight stops, so we could get more on the cars and not really lengthen the days. Maybe this year the trend is more rural. Because I can tell you one thing, out here rural stops are exploding, and I can't dispatch a guy who does 225 miles with 175 stops if we are going to avoid missed/late/DOT violations.

Actually it's just a hell of a lot easier to end up blaiming the "slug" driver for not doing the "methods" and continue to harass them for not being able to "do" the 225 miles and 175 stops....might as well make it 300 stops... even thought everybody knows the allowances are a full out joke...

 

[Coldworld]

honestly it sounds like your IE guy sucks, but a chunk of that is your fault because you don't know how to put the squeeze on his section leader/coordinator for a bad plan day (it's easy)

Lol... just chalk it up to @FrigidFTSup being a sucka sup....a scrub, you might say....I would like to know what he thinks about you since you both are "rookies" in this game of ups...

 

[Coldworld]

No crap. When I have a question at 1705 I find they've been idle on Skype for 45 minutes. Probably already home watching My Little Pony.

Now now frigid... that's no way to talk to your overlords.... uuummm, I mean a fellow "partner"...

 

[Coldworld]

500'.

No guys that's pretty close, it's absolutely a stupid metric and unnecessary....

 

[Coldworld]

Ordinarily you should back first but there will always be times when you have to do otherwise. Drivers shouldn't be more worried about showing up on a report than delivering.

Idgaf about it but in ups' eyes they spent hundreds of millions on the system they are going to use it to harass the s out of us....99.9% of the drivers are done with it, through.... its gotten to a point where if defies any sort of positive goal....and is causing more Harm than good...

 

[Coldworld]

Who the @!@#$ cares! If some idiot asks you that from a report get in their face and ask them if they would prefer you hit the car/truck/object that you had to back to avoid hitting!!! I am sick and tired of non-professional drivers asking a professional driver why they did something the day before, 2 days before or even a week before.
Grow a set of balls, tell a steward to stand right behind you and answer every question with a question when they pull out some BS report and ask you questions!
THE SECOND THEY ASK YOU A QUESTION, PUT THAT AS YOUR START TIME! IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT YOUR "OFFICIAL START TIME" is. I sit and watch all the rookies get ambushed by on-cars 30 mins before the first PCM. Stand up for yourself and you will mysteriously find the unimportant crap stops!

Yep... the bs is out of hand...totally unacceptable..

 

[Coldworld]

The above statement would be the text book definition of an incorrect and shortsighted assumption.

Does it surprise you??? Look where it's coming from..."diabetes Dave".... the cool aid lover, who drinks the really sweet sweet berry punch..

 

[TearsInRain]

Lol... just chalk it up to @FrigidFTSup being a sucka sup....a scrub, you might say....I would like to know what he thinks about you since you both are "rookies" in this game of ups...

he's not a sucker, he's probably just been stuck in ops for way too long

rotations are essential

 

[10 Pt]

Who the @!@#$ cares! If some idiot asks you that from a report get in their face and ask them if they would prefer you hit the car/truck/object that you had to back to avoid hitting!!! I am sick and tired of non-professional drivers asking a professional driver why they did something the day before, 2 days before or even a week before.
Grow a set of balls, tell a steward to stand right behind you and answer every question with a question when they pull out some BS report and ask you questions!
THE SECOND THEY ASK YOU A QUESTION, PUT THAT AS YOUR START TIME! IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT YOUR "OFFICIAL START TIME" is. I sit and watch all the rookies get ambushed by on-cars 30 mins before the first PCM. Stand up for yourself and you will mysteriously find the unimportant crap stops!

"Get in their face" would get you on unpaid vacation.