atatbl
Well-Known Member
Im pretty sure i made a good argument. Why dont we have 3 point seat belts?
The company wants to be known as the safest around, yet they are replacing our current seat belts with the new telematics, but not upgrading?
Why does the current sales lead program still cost us customers because it does not work?
Why would the company pay overtime and triple time to over work drivers, while you have lower paid junior drivers at home on daily layoffs, so they still receive pension and benefits?
So instead of running on foaming at the mouth, maybe explain or debate/counter my opinion!
Your turn!
Sorry for the length.... For those with short attention spans the important part is in bold.
You did not make a good argument. All you did was say that UPS is greedy for making 5 billion dollars and screwing the workers over in the aftermath. Then you went on to say that the management at UPS is making poor choices.
This is not an argument. It is simply two different premises to a bigger argument. What you fail to realize is that these premises are inherently contradictory.
Wait.... there is ONE possible way that both these premises could be true at the same time...... UPS management is not running the company. I think everyone here would agree that there is not some conspiratorial third party running UPS from the shadows.
Furthermore, you did not respond to my post. All you did was bring up three different points that I did not (nor did you on the post I was responding to) bring up. It's hard to have a real discussion with someone that is being this whimsical with logic. I am really not trying to insult you. What you just did was change the context to something unrelated and tell me to debate you. Ridiculous.
I will not "counter/debate" (In quotes because your definition is certainly not acceptable to standard intellect) random premises that you continue to throw out. You are using these as gorilla dust to TRY and disguise the idiocy you are preaching.
No one will ever prove you wrong because your argument is constantly changing. We all know what you are doing. You are not smarter than everyone here. What's more is that I am not the first person to call you out on this.
Your normal recourse here is to regroup, rethink and then make some bold and asinine argument like "the company is bad, prove me wrong"
Let's not forget what just happened here.
I did this:
1. Brought the fact to attention that you argued, vehemently, two contradictory conclusions.
You then:
1. Said "Im pretty sure i made a good argument"
2. Brought in three random ideas that had not been previously mentioned in our discussion.
3. AND THEN... Here's the kicker that made me lol, challenged me to "stop foaming at the mouth" and "counter/debate" you.
If you cannot understand how neanderthal-like this makes your attempts to prove your points, it's no wonder people ONLY support you when you have THEIR interests in mind.