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Driver's living in Seattle wouldn't agree. Hahaha
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Driver's living in Seattle wouldn't agree. Hahaha
BrownArmy
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Slow down.
Take a second and do a little research into the UPS workforce, and unions in general.
Bitching got us where we are today.
Different times, no doubt, but the force behind people fighting for a 'living wage' goes back decades.
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The difference is the sense of entitlement they feel. Most of those jobs they seek higher wages from aren't supposed to be full time jobs and/or careers anyway. Not all, some of them deserve more for the work they do..
MAKAVELI
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Sorry I don't see your point, you tell me to thank them. Why? If I lived in Seattle I would punch them all in the face for making it more expensive to live there. Higher pay, higher prices, in some cases higher unemployment rates. Seattle has a plague of problems that could be abolished to make it cheaper to live there..yet their favorite thing to do is RAISE pretty much everything..
MAKAVELI
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Welcome to America!
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Silly.
theyre right, and theres ALOT of adults doing those kind of jobs.
but like i said, say you do have a 15 per hour min wage. so what. the money is still being mostly concentrated at the top.
what you need is worker owned and controlled jobs. not capitalism.
we got universal healthcare then.
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No, they're not right. There are many reasons why the cost of living in Seattle is high. Instead of fixing those issues, they want someone else to suffer financially to help them out (like, raising the minimum wage). People also fail to look at the other factors contributing to the high cost of living in Seattle. The residents of Seattle are it's own downfall.
im guessing the thing that started minimum wage BS is alot of people making a whole lot less than minimum wage.
im not an expert but im guessing housing speculation, outsourcing of jobs, privatized centralization of the economy aka corporate capitalism, low union numbers, and a weak labor movement are to blame.
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People wanting higher minimum wage are the same people who support higher taxes in the city of Seattle without looking at the big picture.
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Just the people are to blame. They're too stupid to realize WHY they can't afford the cost of living in Seattle.
just because wages go up prices dont necessarily follow. businesses are free to increase or decrease the price of goods as they please. they can absorb the costs of a higher min wage, or they can increase the prices of your goods.
an example of this is during the great depression is that even though wages were falling in america, costs of goods were falling faster which still caused the real wage to rise.
another example was this oil company i believe added an additive to their product and they charged the customers more, and then eventually they stopped adding it, but still again charged the customers more.
real wages rose for 150 years straight in US and ended in 1973 i believe. real wages are how much people can buy adjusted for inflation.
a majority of americans want higher taxes on the rich.
if the news is talking about simply raising or lowering taxes without saying who, then consider it a propaganda term.
Brownslave688
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If the cost of the goods go up then the purchasing power goes down. That's the point.....raising the minimum wage does nothing but hurt those whose are min wage workers.just because wages go up prices dont necessarily follow. businesses are free to increase or decrease the price of goods as they please. they can absorb the costs of a higher min wage, or they can increase the prices of your goods.
an example of this is during the great depression is that even though wages were falling in america, costs of goods were falling faster which still caused the real wage to rise.
real wages rose for 150 years straight in US and ended in 1973 i believe. real wages are how much people can buy adjusted for inflation.
BrownArmy
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On a side note, you seem to be whining just a bit.
I live near Boston, where the cost of living is astronomical.
Realistically, you'll get zero sympathy from me vis-a-vis cost of living, etc.
Who do you think will 'fix those issues' that you speak of?
The Starbucks workers?
The Government?
Tell me if I'm wrong here:
You live in an expensive town and you resent workers in said town wanting a share in their employers' success.
Again, minimum-wage jobs used to be a stepping-stone, but now they're the way many Citizens live, albeit barely.
Is it so wrong for workers at multi-billion dollar companies to ask for an extra dollar?
Someone did a study - if Mickey D's paid their workers $15 an hour, the cost of a Big Mac would rise by $0.05.
The horror.
if you raise it too much it does. im pretty sure 15 is not too much.
americans invented May Day. that makes you great. your looking at it from the wrong perspective. north america doesnt protest enough. we are way behind europe and australia. if we protested more, we could at least be as good as the other developed countries.
