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DOWNTRODDEN IN TEXAS

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In the immortal words of Rodney King.."Can't we all just get along??"

We are all brothers and sisters, no matter what uniform we wear or what color our trucks are. I've had the UPS guys help me unload at bulk stops and I have helped them, same for the Ground guys.

Red Green says it best.."We're all in this together.."
 

bbsam

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Staff member
Aren't you a ground driver bbsam? Or an owner of ground routes. Not for nothing pal but I don't even consider you an employee of Fed Ex. Ground is so unprofessional it's not even funny. I don't give any ground driver the time of day on the road when I see them. As far as I'm concerned ground is taking food off my table.
Not only am I (the unprofessional one) taking food off your table, I'm tossing it in the garbage. The food on your table isn't good enough to become my excrement. If you were everything you say you are, and Ground wouldn't even be a factor anymore. We would have been annexed long ago. Unfortunately for you, I will continue to piss all over your dinner table. (So much for getting along, eh?):happy-very:
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
Well fortunately for you, the vision plan at FedEx will help you correct your myopia.

Sure, if you find an optometrist who actually accepts the joke Davis Vision plan. I think a proctologist would be the best specialist for your disorder, but you better get pre-approved by Anthem before you go in for a visit.
 

MrFedEx

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MFE you have no idea what Vision is, do you?

I know what "vision" is in several senses of the word. If you meant "strategic vision", mine is much different from Fred's (and yours). If you meant ocular vision, mine is 20/20, thanks. And in terms of a "shared vision", as in one put forth by a transformational leader ( which we don't have at FedEx), my goals would be just a bit different than Mr. Smith's. Another type of "vision" is that where you view something from someone else's perspective. My own "vision" is one where the middle class stays that way and tyrants like Smith have all of their special perks taken away so they can't exploit our corrupt governmental system for huge financial gains out of my back pocket.

Just what flavor of "vision" are you proposing? My shades are mirrored, so I see out, but nobody sees in. And our "Vision" Plan sucks like a cheap straw.
 

northeast swing driver

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Not only am I (the unprofessional one) taking food off your table, I'm tossing it in the garbage. The food on your table isn't good enough to become my excrement. If you were everything you say you are, and Ground wouldn't even be a factor anymore. We would have been annexed long ago. Unfortunately for you, I will continue to piss all over your dinner table. (So much for getting along, eh?):happy-very:
Please bro you and you're cohorts over at Ground are a joke. I'm embarassed to be associated with ground. You have no idea what kind of horror stories I hear on the road from customers. Take for example the pregnant secretary who works alone in a little office on the second floor in a building with no elevator. Seems the ground guy one day had two semi-heavy boxes for her and informed her they were left outside in the rain because the shipper as he put it "didnt pay the extra fee to have it delivered to the 2nd floor". What a joke. I love the idea when certain people on this forum claim if Express ever went on strike that Ground could step right in and handle Express. Please. Yea ground could step right in and after about a week businesses would leave FEDEX ship everything thru brown.
 

quadro

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Sure, if you find an optometrist who actually accepts the joke Davis Vision plan. I think a proctologist would be the best specialist for your disorder, but you better get pre-approved by Anthem before you go in for a visit.
I can only speak for the city I live in but there are many, many optometrists who accept Davis. Given that exams, glasses, and contacts for the most part aren't that expensive, the plan meets most of my needs.
I'm not sure if I should be flattered or grossed out that my rear end is something that you like to think about. To each his/her own I suppose.
 

FedExer267

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The Ground drivers would never do it. We dont get paid for what we do now. A few weeks back my Contractor came to me and said this guy called in sick and I cant get no one to do his route. My exact words were I will do it for his pay as well. I did 2 routes that day ran all day no breaks no lunch did over 200 hundred stops. So when I get my check to no suprise, no extra pay. His response I pay you a daily rate no more no less. Fine never ask me again. The same guy called in sick last week hahaha too bad for you he came my direction I said no and left.
My point being we won't do it because we don't get paid to do it. We already are poverty level employees and the last time I checked I get paid to do a certain route and thats all I am going to do. You want to pay me hourly with OT and benefits maybe then we can talk. You go on strike rest assure we will not be delievering your stops.
Just to add for every horror story you hear about Ground I hear the same about Express, UPS, DHL etc.
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
I can only speak for the city I live in but there are many, many optometrists who accept Davis. Given that exams, glasses, and contacts for the most part aren't that expensive, the plan meets most of my needs.
I'm not sure if I should be flattered or grossed out that my rear end is something that you like to think about. To each his/her own I suppose.

Wow. Where have I ever heard the "most of my needs" jargon. Why, that would be on the SFA, wouldn't it? I only think of your rear end in terms of your head being positioned up there, which might possibly explain your reasoning processes. Perhaps if it were removed and returned to it's proper position atop your neck, you'd be able to see things in a different light. Your "vision" might have a new perspective.
 

bbsam

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Staff member
Please bro you and you're cohorts over at Ground are a joke. I'm embarassed to be associated with ground. You have no idea what kind of horror stories I hear on the road from customers. Take for example the pregnant secretary who works alone in a little office on the second floor in a building with no elevator. Seems the ground guy one day had two semi-heavy boxes for her and informed her they were left outside in the rain because the shipper as he put it "didnt pay the extra fee to have it delivered to the 2nd floor". What a joke. I love the idea when certain people on this forum claim if Express ever went on strike that Ground could step right in and handle Express. Please. Yea ground could step right in and after about a week businesses would leave FEDEX ship everything thru brown.

Over and over we at Ground are called "a joke". I'm still the one laughing. Everyone has "a story" and mine still ends the same way, each and every time: I'm still taking your lunch, and I'm coming for dinner next. UPS went on strike. Contrary to rampant fantasies, we still have many of those accounts. Express hasn't even shown itself the 'nads to form a union, let alone go on strike. My invitation to you is the same as I extend to everyone around here: Keep doubting us. Maybe you will end up becoming hungry again.
 

bbsam

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Staff member
So then, tell us how we're supposed to go on strike?

If you read the quoted post (from northeast swing driver), he is the one to suggest the inability of Ground to take up the slack in the event of a strike by Express. I was simply pointing out that he is far, far from that occurance since they do not yet have a union.
 

MrFedEx

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If you read the quoted post (from northeast swing driver), he is the one to suggest the inability of Ground to take up the slack in the event of a strike by Express. I was simply pointing out that he is far, far from that occurance since they do not yet have a union.

Even though Ground has made great progress, I really doubt they could take-up any slack either. The quality of service is just too spotty. Some contractors and drivers have excellent service, but I also hear the horror stories nearly every day. This is why FedEx is taking steps to increase the degree of control they have, which is tricky because it's supposed to be the contractor's show. bbsam recently had an example of the contractor over-ruling the TM on a bulk stop, where bbsam "won" the argument. Overall, however, the Ground drivers I talk to almost daily are being held to increasingly high standards by FedEx, not the contractor. FedEx knows that Ground service is not as good as UPS, and that cost is the only way they're taking business from Brown...not service.
 

quadro

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Wow. Where have I ever heard the "most of my needs" jargon. Why, that would be on the SFA, wouldn't it? I only think of your rear end in terms of your head being positioned up there, which might possibly explain your reasoning processes. Perhaps if it were removed and returned to it's proper position atop your neck, you'd be able to see things in a different light. Your "vision" might have a new perspective.
MrFedEx, you have my humblest of apologies. You are right, my head must have been there as I totally forgot that your experiences, your interpretations, your opinions, are Gospel. Anyone who experiences anything different must be hypnotized, spellbound, and drinking the Purple Kool-Aid. What was I thinking? Apparently I wasn't. Who am I to think that I know my own experiences? Who am I to think that verifiable facts are just that, facts, when in reality they are fiction?

If it's ok with you, I'd like to ask you a question? Are you full time or part time? I think you're full time but I just want to emulate you so I'd like to know for sure.

Your lackey,
Quadro.
 

FedExer267

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We were all told we had a meeting last week. So we all went to what we thought was our little group meeting. Nope it was all the drivers in the building. Management said in a nutshell, You may drive for a diffrent Company but you drive under the FEDEX Brand so you answer to us.
Now I ask you should we only answer to our Contractor? It's like we work at target but answer to walmart management.
Ground is making strides to be more efficient sure, The new system they have implemented in which is a printed up manifest of our stops and pieces does not work. I am sure they will get it hammered out after awhile but the point is I don't care how easy you make the job it doesn't change the fact that you have a extremley under paid workforce doing the work. If you want the business and the service from the Ground over at UPS maybe start with making the employees middle class again. Until then you will have a workforce that does not care.

In my building there are alot of Contractors driving again which I find funny. Alot of guys have quit and moved on, to nobody's surprise these Contractors cannot get anyone in to match the standards that FedEx wants for the pay they are peddling. Hint 500 a week for 70 hours is under minimum wage.
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
MrFedEx, you have my humblest of apologies. You are right, my head must have been there as I totally forgot that your experiences, your interpretations, your opinions, are Gospel. Anyone who experiences anything different must be hypnotized, spellbound, and drinking the Purple Kool-Aid. What was I thinking? Apparently I wasn't. Who am I to think that I know my own experiences? Who am I to think that verifiable facts are just that, facts, when in reality they are fiction?

If it's ok with you, I'd like to ask you a question? Are you full time or part time? I think you're full time but I just want to emulate you so I'd like to know for sure.

Your lackey,
Quadro.

Dear Lackey,

Thank you for your worship, but it's wholly unnecessary because what I say is never the Gospel, just informed opinion. Why would you be interested in my status as PT or FT?

I question your veracity because you rarely wander far from the official company line. You say that you're a topped-out courier, but you sound more like a manager in your posts. Perhaps you live in some backwater state or city where what FedEx pays is considered to be a "good job". In Memphis or Little Rock, that might be true, but in many cities, the wage that FedEx pays isn't competitive.

To the person, every 20+ year employee I know isn't very happy with the current state of affairs at FedEx. You seem the exception to the rule, and being OK with the mediocrity that is Express these days is fine with you. I don't think most employees share your opinion, and that there aren't really many happy campers right now at FedEx.

Again, if we all love FedEx so much, why does Fred devote so much time and money into keeping an RLA Express Carrier Exemption that he doesn't need? Save the $25 million spent just this past year and buy some new vehicles or aircraft, right? Wrong, because the truth is that if a vote were held tomorrow, you know what the results would be. Drop the anti-union efforts, and just let what happens happen. That would never occur though, because Fred knows the truth. Let's just have a vote quadro. We all know how you'd vote, but what about the rest?

Fred S wants us to be just like WalMart, and his main concern is keeping us non-union so he can keep wages and benefits low.

Your Master,

MrFedex
 
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