Mueller is wrapping it up - "I can't subpoena Trump"

vantexan

Well-Known Member
So Flynn didn’t lie to the FBI and he didn’t commit any other crime, but then he accepted a plea deal in exchange for cooperation? What cooperation could he offer if he was not a party to any criminal activity? Your argument doesn’t make any sense.
FBI interviewers didn't think he lied, but Mueller twisted something to get that outcome. Mueller's MO is to get you to say something on record then bring in someone to contradict you. The contradiction is held up as gospel truth, your statement is categorized as false, and you're threatened with prison time if you don't help with what they're really after. Someone not used to such hardball tactics, feeling the full weight of the Federal government, having their savings and home go up in smoke, would most likely fold to stop the bleeding. According to FBI interviewers Flynn was happy to sit down with them, felt he had nothing to hide. I doubt he had representation there. This is your government in action when they want something. Have you forgotten Janet Reno, Waco, and Ruby Ridge?
 

It will be fine

Well-Known Member
FBI interviewers didn't think he lied, but Mueller twisted something to get that outcome. Mueller's MO is to get you to say something on record then bring in someone to contradict you. The contradiction is held up as gospel truth, your statement is categorized as false, and you're threatened with prison time if you don't help with what they're really after. Someone not used to such hardball tactics, feeling the full weight of the Federal government, having their savings and home go up in smoke, would most likely fold to stop the bleeding. According to FBI interviewers Flynn was happy to sit down with them, felt he had nothing to hide. I doubt he had representation there. This is your government in action when they want something. Have you forgotten Janet Reno, Waco, and Ruby Ridge?
You still fail to grasp the point of a plea deal. The point is for the parties to agree on a punishment they both find acceptable. Then they agree on a crime to plea to that gets them that punishment. It doesn’t matter if Flynn actually lied to them or not. That is just pretense for a punishment and guilty plea in exchange for cooperation.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
You still fail to grasp the point of a plea deal. The point is for the parties to agree on a punishment they both find acceptable. Then they agree on a crime to plea to that gets them that punishment. It doesn’t matter if Flynn actually lied to them or not. That is just pretense for a punishment and guilty plea in exchange for cooperation.
If his only crime was "lying" then it matters very much.
 

Turdferguson

Just a turd
Can Mueller subpoena Trump?
Mueller has told the president's legal team he will follow Justice Department guidance and not seek an indictment against Trump.
The US Constitution has provisions for that within the Impeachment process.

"This case is essentially over," Giuliani said. "They're just in denial."
Mueller declares, "I can subpoena everyone else though and I will until I find something against Trump!"

And to that end ...
Mueller issues grand jury subpoenas to Trump adviser's
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Justice Department Special Counsel Robert Mueller has issued two subpoenas to a social media expert who worked for longtime Donald Trump adviser Roger Stone during the 2016 presidential election campaign.


Hasn't wrapped up yet, another lie from you.
Ridiculous, simply ridiculous
 

Box Ox

Well-Known Member

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bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
When your son was meeting with Russian agents...

When your campaign was run by a Russian backed advisor to Ukraine...

When your soon to be National Security Advisor was making plans to kidnap a cleric...

When your personal lawyer was paying porn stars hush money...

When 90% of the investigators are from your own party...

When your NSA briefings now come from Sean Hannity...

...it’s pretty easy to see that the United States and it’s government has been far more than fair with this president.
 

PT Stewie

"Big Fella"
When your son was meeting with Russian agents...

When your campaign was run by a Russian backed advisor to Ukraine...

When your soon to be National Security Advisor was making plans to kidnap a cleric...

When your personal lawyer was paying porn stars hush money...

When 90% of the investigators are from your own party...

When your NSA briefings now come from Sean Hannity...

...it’s pretty easy to see that the United States and it’s government has been far more than fair with this president.
Is it just me or you did not find anything wrong on the other side ?
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
When your son was meeting with Russian agents...

When your campaign was run by a Russian backed advisor to Ukraine...

When your soon to be National Security Advisor was making plans to kidnap a cleric...

When your personal lawyer was paying porn stars hush money...

When 90% of the investigators are from your own party...

When your NSA briefings now come from Sean Hannity...

...it’s pretty easy to see that the United States and it’s government has been far more than fair with this president.
And all Obama did was forge a birth certificate and have sealed court documents made public.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
Is it just me or you did not find anything wrong on the other side ?
Oh no. Plenty there. But what you seem to imply is that because of investigatory overstep, none of the presidents people should face scrutiny. Really? Do you put internal government malfeasance by Clinton on the same level as possible conspiracy with agents of Russia? If the investigations are unequal, perhaps it is that the crimes being investigated are unequal.
 

ImWaitingForTheDay

Annoy a conservative....Think for yourself
When your son was meeting with Russian agents...

When your campaign was run by a Russian backed advisor to Ukraine...

When your soon to be National Security Advisor was making plans to kidnap a cleric...

When your personal lawyer was paying porn stars hush money...

When 90% of the investigators are from your own party...

When your NSA briefings now come from Sean Hannity...

...it’s pretty easy to see that the United States and it’s government has been far more than fair with this president.
Hey, stop spreading facts, it's not fair to them.
 

PT Stewie

"Big Fella"
Oh no. Plenty there. But what you seem to imply is that because of investigatory overstep, none of the presidents people should face scrutiny. Really? Do you put internal government malfeasance by Clinton on the same level as possible conspiracy with agents of Russia? If the investigations are unequal, perhaps it is that the crimes being investigated are unequal.
 
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