"On Topic" Operations Management Jogging Knife Switches

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Integrity, Jan 6, 2017.

  1. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster

    To My Fellow UPS Workers,
    The purpose of this discussion thread is not to gripe or complain about conditions at
    UPS, management, the Union or for that matter anything at all about UPS. The sole
    purpose of this discussion thread is to discuss the following work-related issue with
    other employees as an initial step in engaging in some concerted activity to bring this
    issue up to the company as a group.

    It is my hope that by addressing this issue in concert we not only be working for our
    own mutual aid, protection and improved working conditions, but we will be working for
    the benefit of any and all coworkers that may have been adversely affected by this

    It was reported to Integrity that management in a certain facility are jogging a conveyor that gets backed up almost every night using the disconnect switch for the motor.

    This is dangerous.

    This is not consistent with UPS safety methods.

    Does this happen in your facility?

    Anything to add?

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  2. Brisket

    Brisket Active Member

    Oh I would like to believe IF it happens in your bldg, you would immediately get your steward involved, and go from there.

    And OMG really?! First the 'spill' now this!?

    Time to fess up, you work for OSHA don't you?!
  3. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster

    Why and what would you hope to accomplish by getting a union steward involved in this situation?
  4. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Now, a low life jack wagon, and still loving it.

    Just out of curiosity, WTF is a 'knife switch'?
  5. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Now, a low life jack wagon, and still loving it.

    @Integrity, by now I think most of us here believe you are a Keter auditor, or something similar. I also think that damn near all of us don't give a :censored2: about your queries.

    If you want to go fishing for opinions, find a different platform.

    Thank you,

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  6. 10 Pt

    10 Pt Guest

    Service disconnect
  7. Bastiatian

    Bastiatian Well-Known Member

    Can you explain what you mean by this?
  8. 10 Pt

    10 Pt Guest

    Because it applies to Art 18 is the "why".
    Because it's unsafe and if people can be injured is the "what" (the steward can witness the unsafe actions of management and can file on it and contact OSHA at the same time).
    Or if it's breaking NEC or BBC ordinances.
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  9. Brisket

    Brisket Active Member



    The Employer and the Union agree that the safety of the employees and the general public is of utmost importance.

    The Employer and the Union have developed the following Sections and Subsections of this Agreement to respond to that mutual concern for safety. The contract language responds to a vari- ety of areas related to safety, health, ergonomics, climatic condi- tions as well as federal, state and local laws dedicated to providing a safe and healthy workplace.

    To address safety and health issues, the Employer and the Union have developed the following:

    A. A National UPS/IBT Safety and Health Committee;

    B. ANationalUPS/IBTSafetyandHealthGrievanceCommitteeto respond to safety, health, ergonomic and climatic issues and con- cerns; and

    C. A Safety and Health Committee, chaired by the UPS Director of Health and Safety and the IBT Director of Safety and Health, will be formed to address present and future safety and health issues and solutions; and

    D. Local area joint labor/management committees comprised of bargaining unit members and management to address job related safety and health concerns through the Comprehensive Health and Safety Process (CHSP).

    Notwithstanding the employee’s right to contact federal, state or local agencies, it is the recommendation of the committee that issues and concerns, regarding this Agreement, should first be brought before the National Safety and Health Committee.

    Union requests to access Company vehicles and/or facilities for the purpose of investigating safety and health issues shall proceed as follows:

    Upon request of a Local Union, and with the approval of the UPS/IBT National Safety and Health co-chairs, representatives of the Union, accompanied by Company representatives, will be pro- vided reasonable and necessary access to the Company’s vehicles and/or facilities for the purpose of investigating safety and health issues.

    Section 1. Employeesʼ Rights - Equipment, Vehicles

    and Conditions

    The Employer shall not require employees to take out on the streets or highways any vehicle, or use any type of equipment, that is not
    in a safe operating condition or equipped with the safety appliances prescribed by law.

    Under no circumstances will an employee be required or assigned to engage in any activity involving dangerous conditions of work or danger to a person or property or in violation of a government reg- ulation relating to safety of person or equipment. The term “danger- ous conditions of work” does not relate to the type of cargo which is to be hauled or handled.

    Because , sir or madame we all use the equipment in the building, so if they are circumventing the methods and procedures that were put in place to protect us ALL, and someone else gets hurt, then we all should be ashamed!

    Sorry was a bit busy. And thank you 10 pt.
  10. 35years

    35years Well-Known Member


    You guys have done a great job of answering I's question of what should be done in ALL the safety situations he brings up on this forum...Get the Union involved, file grievances, and notify the appropriate government officials. These answers should be mentioned in all his "what should we do" threads.
  11. burrheadd

    burrheadd Esquire

    I don't see the problem
    Been doing it since electricity was invented
  12. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster

  13. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster

    It is my understanding that the management do this in plain view of the stewards in the building.

    If this is true then it doesn't seem that this would be the way to go.
  14. Turdferguson

    Turdferguson Just a turd

    So you are saying that they are blowing someone up each shift?
    That's got to be a OSHA violation to blow someone up
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  15. burrheadd

    burrheadd Esquire

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  16. Integrity

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  17. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster

    Then many should be ashamed.
  18. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster

    No, not saying that.

    Probably an OSHA violation.
  19. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster

    Doesn't make it not a problem.
  20. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster

    They really did not do a good job with the questions. FYI The questions for this discussion thread actually were:

    Doe this happen at your facility?

    Anything to add?