Southern Baptist Convention Throws Out Saddleback Church

[BadIdeaGuy]

Integrity: I think women should be treated equally and fairly within religious communities!
Browncafe religious hate mongers: Wow what an egomaniac! He must think he is some sort of Jesus!

I've found atheists tend not to give good religious advice.

 

[BrownFlush]

2 Peter 3:3, NIV: Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires.

The last days are the Christian Dispensation…. We’ve had 2000 years worth of last days.

 

[BrownFlush]

I believe you're suffering from a messianic complex.

Correction: That would be a “ messy complex”.

 

[Box Ox]

I do believe that the oppression and suppression of women in institutional church is not consistent with the life and teachings of Jesus.

It’s true. Gender equality was a big issue for Jesus 2,000 years ago. Think he even held some equal pay and voting rights rallies.

 

[UnionStrong]

It’s true. Gender equality was a big issue for Jesus 2,000 years ago. Think he even held some equal pay and voting rights rallies.

Right after the Pride rally he went to.

 

[Box Ox]

Right after the Pride rally he went to.

Indeed. How could Christians be against something Jesus fought so hard for?

 

[Box Ox]

I believe you're suffering from a messianic complex.

Correction: That would be a “ messy complex”.

You’re both right.

Forum persona: messianic complex.

Real life: messy complex.

 

[qdg2]

Egomania is the simplest explanation.

Are you a trained psychologist? Serious question.

I'm curious.....how do you know what his relationship with God is? Actually a better question...

Sorry, I'm not on the same wavelength with God you are. I've yet to have him speak directly to me and not through the Scriptures. That's a convenient out by the way. Don't like what the Scriptures say on a given subject? God will tell me directly what to do so I'll just ignore those Scriptures.

I believe you're suffering from a messianic complex.

How about you?

 

[Thebrownblob]

Are you a trained psychologist? Serious question.

I'm curious.....how do you know what his relationship with God is? Actually a better question...

How about you?

 

[Box Ox]

Sorry, I'm not on the same wavelength with God you are. I've yet to have him speak directly to me and not through the Scriptures. That's a convenient out by the way. Don't like what the Scriptures say on a given subject? God will tell me directly what to do so I'll just ignore those Scriptures.

I believe you're suffering from a messianic complex.

Egomania is the simplest explanation.

I'm curious.....how do you know what his relationship with God is?

I dunno how @BadIdeaGuy knows but God whispered in my ear and told me that what he said is true.

 

[qdg2]

You’re both right.

Forum persona: messianic complex.

Real life: messy complex.

Ok.

Are you a trained psychologist?

If so, where did you get your training?

 

[Box Ox]

Ok.

Are you a trained psychologist?

If so, where did you get your training?

Why would I need to be? God tells me what I need to know.

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

I dunno how @BadIdeaGuy knows but God whispered in my ear and told me that what he said is true.

I dated his sister for a while.

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

Are you a trained psychologist? Serious question.

If you get to be a pilot, I get to be a psychologist.

 

[Thebrownblob]

If you get to be a pilot, I get to be a psychologist.

I think he missed his calling as a proctologist!

 

[Box Ox]

I think he missed his calling as a proctologist!

I'd take that as a compliment. Could become a real money printing machine given the way things are going. But I'm also not an Evangelical.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Integrity: I think women should be treated equally and fairly within religious communities!
Browncafe religious hate mongers: Wow what an egomaniac! He must think he is some sort of Jesus!

I don’t think we were talking about whether or not he respects women or treats them fairly and equally I’m sure he does. As I’m sure you do as well as I seen you talk about how you care about your mom. If women go to that organization of their free well, it is their choice. There’s lots of things I don’t agree with, is porn treating women with respect? Strip clubs? Some would say it’s their choice so I should respect it.

 

[Integrity]

But in your modern day sensibilities if a woman doesn't have everything a man has she's oppressed.

You are making this up.

On average women are considerably weaker than men. Did God oppress women by making them weaker?

I don’t believe God sees weakness and views weakness from mankind’s perspective.

Women today enjoy a much more equal world because in modern life many jobs only require thinking and not brute strength.

Are you a male chauvinist?

If we lived in the 1600's would you be speaking out about the oppression of women? Men and women would both look at you like you had lost your mind. Women in an agrarian society had very defined rolls in supporting their husbands who did the hard labor that kept them fed and a roof over their heads. Their lives were hard but were immeasurably harder if they didn't have the protection and support of a man. And now many want to stamp out every vestige of male authority right down to even trying to change the definitions of men and women. So many go by their "feelings" and are totally confused or willfully ignorant about gender roles. The world isn't a better place for it.

Where are you getting this information?

 

[Integrity]

Sorry, I'm not on the same wavelength with God you are.

NP

I've yet to have him speak directly to me and not through the Scriptures.

Sorry to hear that. I don’t know why the Holy Spirit isn’t speaking to you.

That's a convenient out by the way. Don't like what the Scriptures say on a given subject? God will tell me directly what to do so I'll just ignore those Scriptures.

I am sorry you feel this way.

I believe you're suffering from a messianic complex.

I disagree with your assessment.

 

[Integrity]

Cults get started when people start claiming they have new revelations from God.

Jesus teaching was new to the established religion of His day.

Which is very contrary to scripture.

You are entitled to your belief.