Southern Baptist Convention Throws Out Saddleback Church

Status
Not open for further replies.

bacha29

Well-Known Member
Do you see anyone mocking atheism? They’re so insecure they have to attack anyone that has faith. Tells you all you need to know. Clowns.
What you might call "mocking" others including myself see as resistance to efforts to make evangelical inspired legislation the law of the land requiring Americans who do not abide by what some bible thumper with a GED and a preacher's license and his version of the "truth".
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
Yeah, their social programs are really bring people up by the bootstraps 🙄drive down to the projects and inner city ghettos and see how that’s working and you’ll see despair like you’ve never seen. Taking money out of peoples pockets through the government is not charity it’s confiscation.
And what has hard core conservative capitalism achieved in that area? After all....did you send back your COVID relief checks?
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
And what has hard core conservative capitalism achieved in that area? After all....did you send back your COVID relief checks?
Why would I send back my Covid relief checks? it was my money! Duh
L O L. Where is the hard-core conservative capitalism I’ve never seen it.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
Ignorant infidel comments are hilarious.

"For the Son of Man came to seek and to save the lost.” Luke 19:10
Not to feed the hungry, house the homeless, or welcome strangers.
Because..
"You will always have the poor with you,"- Mark 14:7
If you want your life to be governed by some ancient text that can be used to support whatever point of view the reader wishes to use it .....That's fine. But it doesn't mean that everyone else has to. And BTW. The scripture you use here appears to absolve you of fulfilling what has widely been viewed some of the most basic teachings of your religion....Feeding the hungry, taking care of the poor, housing the homeless. When it comes to those responsibilities that piece of scripture is your own little get out of jail free card.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
Why would I send back my Covid relief checks? it was my money! Duh
L O L. Where is the hard-core conservative capitalism I’ve never seen it.
No it was NOT your money. Only came about as the result of a special piece of emergency legislation that those evil liberals managed to pass despite the fact that not a single GOP member of either house of congress voted for it. So if it was YOUR money then why did every Republican member of congress tried to stop you from getting it?
BTW if you think that liberal social programs are not working in this country then there's no reason for you to bother signing up for Social Security and Medicare if in your opinion they don't work for the benefit of the nation.
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
No it was NOT your money. Only came about as the result of a special piece of emergency legislation that those evil liberals managed to pass despite the fact that not a single GOP member of either house of congress voted for it. So if it was YOUR money then why did every Republican member of congress tried to stop you from getting it?
BTW if you think that liberal social programs are not working in this country then there's no reason for you to bother signing up for Social Security and Medicare if in your opinion they don't work for the benefit of the nation.
Dude, the government doesn’t have any money, but what they confiscate from us. So yes, regardless of your soliloquy, it was my money. just returned it to me. SMH why do people like you go on and on about democrat this and republican that as if I care about any of them? You radical political people crack me up as if any of them care about us or doing anything to help us.. thank you oh great government for returning a very small portion of the money you confiscated from me and calling it Covid relief while you handed billions of dollars to your friends. And Social Security and Medicare I paid into whether I wanted to or not, it’s not free money and I won’t get back when I put into it
 
Last edited:

bacha29

Well-Known Member
Dude, the government doesn’t have any money, but what they confiscate from us. So yes, regardless of your soliloquy, it was my money. just returned it to me. SMH why do people like you go on and on about democrat this and republican that as if I care about any of them? You radical political people crack me up as if any of them care about us or doing anything to help us.. thank you oh great government for returning a very small portion of the money you confiscated from me and calling it Covid relief while you handed billions of dollars to your friends.
And how was it confiscated? Are you saying that FICA which prepays the future programs from which you will no doubt enjoy benefits is being "confiscated" ?
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
And how was it confiscated? Are you saying that FICA which prepays the future programs from which you will no doubt enjoy benefits is being "confiscated" ?
Do I have a choice? No. that’s confiscation. LOL enjoying the benefit? If I had the money myself, the benefit would be 10 times that.
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
If you want your life to be governed by some ancient text that can be used to support whatever point of view the reader wishes to use it .....That's fine. But it doesn't mean that everyone else has to. And BTW. The scripture you use here appears to absolve you of fulfilling what has widely been viewed some of the most basic teachings of your religion....Feeding the hungry, taking care of the poor, housing the homeless. When it comes to those responsibilities that piece of scripture is your own little get out of jail free card.
The comment of ignorant infidels is hilarious.
"For you always have the poor with you, and whenever you want, you can do good for them. But you will not always have me." -Mark 14:7
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
Do I have a choice? No. that’s confiscation. LOL enjoying the benefit? If I had the money myself, the benefit would be 10 times that.
You think so? Social Security contributions are the only retirement contributions that are federally insured. The ONLY one. Important given that people have learned the hard way what can happen to their 401K contributions which are not. Mini Bush wanted to privatize it but transition costs would have exceeded 2 trillion and the banks made it clear that they would have to charge large management fees on small balances because people would be withdrawing their money on demand frequently.

Paul Ryan wanted to end Medicare and give recipients a stipend for $7700 dollars to go buy their own insurance. Only one problem. There wasn't an insurance company in the world who would write a health insurance contract for a 70 year old with pre existing medical conditions. Medicare administrative costs as a percentage of their cross revenues?....3%. Doesn't need to spend money on advertising or turn profits for shareholders. Unlike stakeholder own insurers whose margins are capped at 20% of their gross thanks to the PPA/ACA. No wonder they want rid of Medicare. They can't compete against it.

Still think that you would do 10 times better on your own? That $4500 a month UPS/Teamster pension plan looks better all the time. Now doesn't it?
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
If you want your life to be governed by some ancient text that can be used to support whatever point of view the reader wishes to use it .....That's fine. But it doesn't mean that everyone else has to.
Where do many of the civil laws you are governed by come from?
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
You think so? Social Security contributions are the only retirement contributions that are federally insured. The ONLY one. Important given that people have learned the hard way what can happen to their 401K contributions which are not. Mini Bush wanted to privatize it but transition costs would have exceeded 2 trillion and the banks made it clear that they would have to charge large management fees on small balances because people would be withdrawing their money on demand frequently.

Paul Ryan wanted to end Medicare and give recipients a stipend for $7700 dollars to go buy their own insurance. Only one problem. There wasn't an insurance company in the world who would write a health insurance contract for a 70 year old with pre existing medical conditions. Medicare administrative costs as a percentage of their cross revenues?....3%. Doesn't need to spend money on advertising or turn profits for shareholders. Unlike stakeholder own insurers whose margins are capped at 20% of their gross thanks to the PPA/ACA. No wonder they want rid of Medicare. They can't compete against it.

Still think that you would do 10 times better on your own? That $4500 a month UPS/Teamster pension plan looks better all the time. Now doesn't it?
my $4500 a month teamster pension looks great. We negotiated for it and earned it. What did you negotiate for and earn? And yes, I’m certain I could do better than what amounts to an annuity for my retirement and isn’t even guaranteed like you say, they’re already talking about moving the age give me a break believe so much nonsense. It’s not even funny. Just like the line from the movie Tommy boy Tommy : Because they know all they sold ya was a guaranteed piece of :censored2:.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
The comment of ignorant infidels is hilarious.
"For you always have the poor with you, and whenever you want, you can do good for them. But you will not always have me." -Mark 14:7
And just who is "me"? And so based on your religious get out of jail free card a person can be selective when and how they help the poor and needy? Sounds like a pretty good deal. A person can disavow their religion required obligations whenever they want and still not run afoul of the bible cops.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
And liberals are the ones who campaigned and passed into law many of the social programs that will help millions of low income Americans and are programs that will help to secure a better tomorrow for perhaps you as well.
And that's wonderful. Please tell that to today's numbskulls who want to social engineer everything to their liking no matter what everyone else wants.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
I my $4500 a month teamster pension looks great. We negotiated for it and earned it. What did you negotiate for an earn?
And it required legislation that first had to be passed into law that gave you the power and the rule of law backing you that enabled you to form a union capitalize on the right of collective bargaining in order to gain by means of collective bargaining those pension benefits.

Only 1 problem. AT 12:01 AM on August 1 2023 every economic security you now take for granted ENDS. What happens after that?.....Stay tuned.
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
And just who is "me"? And so based on your religious get out of jail free card a person can be selective when and how they help the poor and needy? Sounds like a pretty good deal. A person can disavow their religion required obligations whenever they want and still not run afoul of the bible cops.
Jesus said his yoke is easy there is no religious obligation. You don’t go to heaven by works, but someone changed would want to do it willingly
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
And just who is "me"?
That would be the speaker of the verse.
He was speaking of his death that was coming.
And so based on your religious get out of jail free card a person can be selective when and how they help the poor and needy? Sounds like a pretty good deal. A person can disavow their religion required obligations whenever they want and still not run afoul of the bible cops.
Ability and opportunity equals responsibility.

The comments of ignorant infidels are hilarious.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top