Southern Baptist Convention Throws Out Saddleback Church

[BrownFlush]

Acts 2:3

When the Holy Spirit sets a flame on your head, instilling in you the ability to perform miracles as well as directs you in your writings to the Church let us know. Until then you aren't on an equivalent plane with the Lord's Apostles.

How dare you! You know who you’re talking to?
He has the the Holy Spirit personally living inside him.
Even the Apostles didn’t have that.. wait.. nobody in the Bible had that… Oh well..

 

[upschuck]

Please look and see where I told anyone they were wrong.

How about the whole indwelling argument? Or do you just like to argue?

 

[BrownFlush]

How about the whole indwelling argument? Or do you just like to argue?

There was no argument.
Again where did I say anyone was wrong and I’m right about everything.
I like what the Bible says. Many don’t
.No Bible text has been offered to discuss a literal indwelling that I know of that I didn’t attempt to answer with scripture

 

[Integrity]

Acts 2:3

When the Holy Spirit sets a flame on your head, instilling in you the ability to perform miracles as well as directs you in your writings to the Church let us know. Until then you aren't on an equivalent plane with the Lord's Apostles.

Are you saying the Apostles were more than mere men?

 

[vantexan]

Are you saying the Apostles were more than mere men?

I've never met a mere. Is that sort of like a mermaid?

 

[upschuck]

There was no argument.
Again where did I say anyone was wrong and I’m right about everything.
I like what the Bible says. Many don’t
.No Bible text has been offered to discuss a literal indwelling that I know of that I didn’t attempt to answer with scripture

Many were, you just dismissed them, and contending otherwise, aka, telling them they are wrong.

 

[BrownFlush]

Many were, you just dismissed them, and contending otherwise, aka, telling them they are wrong.

Please show me.
Aka, you’re wrong in your conclusion.

 

[Integrity]

I've never met a mere. Is that sort of like a mermaid?

Your word not mine.

 

[Integrity]

All of those who have obeyed the gospel are members of the Lord's called out body - the church. None of those who have not obeyed the gospel are members of the called out body. The denominations of men do not teach the gospel plan of salvation; they delude men into thinking that they can be saved by "faith only," before and without water baptism. To speak of those who have never obeyed the gospel of Jesus Christ as being members of the church deludes people into thinking they are saved when they are lost. Those who have never obeyed the gospel are not members of the Lord's church, although they may be members of the church established by Martin Luther, John Calvin, John Smyth, Joseph Smith, and other men.

Some have suggested that New Testament Christians should fellowship all denominations. How can one become a Christian without obeying the gospel? If you do not practice and teach the doctrine of Christ, you are not are pleasing to God and fellowship (things in common) is not possible. (Eph. 5:11). Joining hands in fellowship with their violations of scripture would only endorse error and be in violation of 2 John 9-11.

The Lord's church is not made up of the good people of all denominations. It is composed of those who have obeyed the Lord's gospel in order to become a Christian and who continue to abide in Christ through faithful living. Instead of joining hands with the denominations and false teachers and their teaching, I'll make the effort to instead teach the truth and reach the lost, and ask folks to forsake humanly devised religion that will damn their souls.

I respect your beliefs.

I have my own.

 

[Integrity]

If they didn't think it was the correct one, wouldn't they change to a different "denomination"? That pertains to everything that all of us do. We all think the way we do things is the most correct/appropriate way.

Pretty wise comment.

 

[Integrity]

You sound very legalistic.

I definitely can see how one might get this impression of him.

 

[Integrity]

As legal as the Bible let’s me. What scripture and my comment about it have you taken issue with?
There are many who are illegalist …that’s probably not a word.

You seem more concerned with written religious traditions than the teaching, life, and Good News of Christ.

 

[vantexan]

Your word not mine.

You were suggesting that they were just men, nothing more and it was fine for you to disagree with their writings.

 

[vantexan]

You seem more concerned with written religious traditions than the teaching, life, and Good News of Christ.

Teaching the Good News of Christ is the foundation of Christianity and is found throughout the New Testament which for some reason you refuse to accept as authority over Christians.

 

[BrownFlush]

I respect your beliefs.

No you don't.

IMO When a person or denomination speaks as if their understanding of a particular Biblical text is the one, true and correct one. It is a statement that is dripping with condescension.

lol

 

[upschuck]

Please show me.
Aka, you’re wrong in your conclusion.

Already have, you just choose not to see it.

 

[Integrity]

You were suggesting that they were just men, nothing more and it was fine for you to disagree with their writings.

Yes.

Are you saying the Apostles were more than men?

 

[Integrity]

Teaching the Good News of Christ is the foundation of Christianity and is found throughout the New Testament which for some reason you refuse to accept as authority over Christians.

Is the Good News of Christ dependent on the Bible?

 

[Integrity]

No you don't.

I do.

You are entitled to your opinion and I respect that,

 

[BrownFlush]

Already have, you just choose not to see it.

Comment # please you’re talking about.
Be glad to address it.