Stupid arguments about the Ground business model

AB831

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Your problem is that you think you are smarter than you are, but not smart enough to recognize how little you know. I'd guess your IQ is just a hair below average, and you think having a near 100 IQ means you are smart. But IQ is not measured on a 1-100 scale, like a math test, so 100 is just average, and the average person like you is not very smart- just barely average.
It’s called the Dunning-Kruger Effect, and blowhards like him and Dano are the best example of it I’ve ever seen.
 

dmac1

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Actually you rambled like a crazy person with apparent knowledge of who was hired and fired in the terminal after you left. You claimed to know how the contractors that replaced you faired. You could have answered, “I’m not sure.”

Lashing out in anger at me doesn’t make you seem knowledgeable, it just demonstrates you make decisions with emotion rather than logic. You lost far more money in your lawsuit than you would have gained by building the business and working with FedEx instead of against it.
For the first few months, it was my concern what happened for my legal cases. Once those were won, it didn't matter . I was able to prove to the judges that I had been more than fulfilling the tems of the contract, and proved that I was actually an employee, and proved that all my drivers- both former and current- were actually fedex employees.

I'm not angry at you or fedex, I just think that 90% of the time, you clearly know nothing, and seem proud of it. You keep 'assuming' things about people, and so far, every assumption is wrong. Someone needs to tell you that all the participation trophies and certificates you got as a child really do NOT make you special, no matter how much you believe it.

I didn't lose ANY money in 'my' lawsuit. I was awarded about $25k by the state, and won over $40k in the national class action. All the legal costs were paid by fedex. You just keep proving that you pull BS out with no knowledge, proving your ignorance.
 

It will be fine

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For the first few months, it was my concern what happened for my legal cases. Once those were won, it didn't matter . I was able to prove to the judges that I had been more than fulfilling the tems of the contract, and proved that I was actually an employee, and proved that all my drivers- both former and current- were actually fedex employees.

I'm not angry at you or fedex, I just think that 90% of the time, you clearly know nothing, and seem proud of it. You keep 'assuming' things about people, and so far, every assumption is wrong. Someone needs to tell you that all the participation trophies and certificates you got as a child really do NOT make you special, no matter how much you believe it.

I didn't lose ANY money in 'my' lawsuit. I was awarded about $25k by the state, and won over $40k in the national class action. All the legal costs were paid by fedex. You just keep proving that you pull BS out with no knowledge, proving your ignorance.
More personal attacks, sad.
You “won” $65k. You could have built and sold a company for several hundred thousand easily. Had you actually been good at the things that matter you could have acquired additional area and sold many companies for millions. You lost plenty.
 

bacha29

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I made more money by leaving and investing my money in more profitable, less labor intensive work. My first deal was buying a rural property, selling the timber, and then reselling for a little more than I paid, all in less than seven months. That took $14,000 cash and an owner carry mtg. I did NO physical work. Sold $91,000 worth of timber. Taxes ate up some, but I cleared close to $50k profit in 7 months. Paid a timber manager out of the profit who gave me a free bid BEFORE I decided to buy the property. Next was a run down 5 unit building that with some cosmetics- paint, carpeting, new appliances, I doubled the property value by being able to charge higher rents, and the rents more than covered the cost of the mtg, maintenance, and most of the repairs/improvements. About all I did for those was some interior painting and flooring. My total out of pocket was $20k cash, and the property went up by almost $200k. Now I'm retired, with very low mtg and a steady income from my investments. I occasionally need to make a decision when a tenant moves out of one of my rentals maybe once every 2 years.

Your problem is that you think you are smarter than you are, but not smart enough to recognize how little you know. I'd guess your IQ is just a hair below average, and you think having a near 100 IQ means you are smart. But IQ is not measured on a 1-100 scale, like a test, so 100 is just average, and the average person like you is not very smart- just barely average.
You really can't read???? I said I no longer pay attention to the terminal. I really don't care, and it makes no difference without knowing the volume.

For all I know, they may have added more terminals both north, south, and west as well. I had 3 routes, all rural, one going as far as 100 miles with an average over 350 miles per day, from the terminal, one going ~40 with maybe 150 miles per day,, and one going about 80 with close to 300 miles total. The other truck usually ran anything from 40- 150 miles total per day. I had learned how to manipulate core zone pay long before, with my 3 contracted routes at $95, $112, and $125 per day. Each driver worked alternate 4 and 5 day weeks, with me splitting up most of the supplemental work with another part time driver, and driving a full route 1-2 times per week

I also moved 1000 miles away to be closer to family so even less concern about whatever is now going on in that terminal.. I did answer your question, you just have low comprehension.
Exactly. Do the handful of stops you've have inside the borough then go chase RD's all day and half the night. IWBF and Dano 59 are so city minded that it's the only thing they know because they're tires have never come in contact with an unpaved surface. And did you notice something? If rural work is as easy and profitable as they claim it is how come they're not out there doing it? The people who tried multi route at my terminal they didn't last long. Too many miles too little freight too much vehicle damage having to take the people nobody else wanted and entrust them with representing your interests and make good decisions in your behalf when they couldn't even make good decisions when it came to their own lives.

I laughed when IWBF talked about "working with fedex" Nobody works "with" fedex. Regardless of the capacity in which you work you work for fedex. And when it comes to being a so called contractor. Migrant farm workers have better protection under the than you have. Sure it might work out for him but the undeniable kowtowing to Fat Freddy he has to do to achieve it completely cancels out whatever degree of peer recognition that he unjustly believes he's entitled to. You and I on the other hand have our freedom.
 

dmac1

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More personal attacks, sad.
You “won” $65k. You could have built and sold a company for several hundred thousand easily. Had you actually been good at the things that matter you could have acquired additional area and sold many companies for millions. You lost plenty.
Under the terms when I was with fedex I could NOT have built anything. You are even stupider than I thought. I explained it clearly.Instead, I took my money and invested it where I knew there was much greater return on investment while using other people's money and greatly leveraging my funds with very low risk.

Your ego is so completely based on your 'success with fedex that I feel sorry that you have little else. Being on this site everyday what is apparently 24 hours per day shows something about you. But because you can run a fedex route, you are smarter than everyone who chooses not to. You are a greater entrepreneur than Bill Gates because you are happy and 'successful' with fedex. Being 'successful' with fedex means you are the best, and there is no other way for anyone to make money as easily as you do with as little risk. You are #1.

Clearly you are seeking praise and wanting your ego fed by posting like you do. Soooooooooooooo sad.

And today, you have LESS independence and have more control exerted by fedex over 'your' business than I ever did..
 

It will be fine

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Under the terms when I was with fedex I could NOT have built anything. You are even stupider than I thought. I explained it clearly.Instead, I took my money and invested it where I knew there was much greater return on investment while using other people's money and greatly leveraging my funds with very low risk.

Your ego is so completely based on your 'success with fedex that I feel sorry that you have little else. Being on this site everyday what is apparently 24 hours per day shows something about you. But because you can run a fedex route, you are smarter than everyone who chooses not to. You are a greater entrepreneur than Bill Gates because you are happy and 'successful' with fedex. Being 'successful' with fedex means you are the best, and there is no other way for anyone to make money as easily as you do with as little risk. You are #1.

Clearly you are seeking praise and wanting your ego fed by posting like you do. Soooooooooooooo sad.

And today, you have LESS independence and have more control exerted by fedex over 'your' business than I ever did..
It is pathetic that you can’t discuss FedEx without a tirade of personal attacks. Your emotions clearly rule your thinking. It’s probably why you failed with FedEx.
 

dmac1

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It is pathetic that you can’t discuss FedEx without a tirade of personal attacks. Your emotions clearly rule your thinking. It’s probably why you failed with FedEx.
There you go again, tossing out insults while saying I shouldn't be doing it, just as I expect. You literally call people failures for not liking the contract model day after day, and none of them cry like you do about being insulted. If you can't take it, or if your ego can't take it, quit dishing it out. Grow up.
 

It will be fine

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There you go again, tossing out insults while saying I shouldn't be doing it, just as I expect. You literally call people failures for not liking the contract model day after day, and none of them cry like you do about being insulted. If you can't take it, or if your ego can't take it, quit dishing it out. Grow up.
Stating that you failed is a statement of fact. If you take that to mean you are personally a failure that’s on you.
 

bacha29

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There you go again, tossing out insults while saying I shouldn't be doing it, just as I expect. You literally call people failures for not liking the contract model day after day, and none of them cry like you do about being insulted. If you can't take it, or if your ego can't take it, quit dishing it out. Grow up.
Exactly . You know when dmac1 has a property somebody is interested in purchasing., dmac1 doesn't have to go hat in hand to somebody who doesn't have a single dime invested in that asset and ask them for permission to sell that asset to the interested buyer. But, that is exactly what IWBF would have to do. Who ever heard of such a thing?
If the IRS ordered you to turn over your financial records they would have the rule of law and a court order backing that demand. Fat Freddy orders IWBF to turn over his financial records despite the fact that he has no legal standing to do so but he does it anyway BECAUSE HE CAN! Why because no contractor has the power to oppose him.

Now IWBF talks about selling his contract for in his own words "millions and millions of dollars" Now does IWBF set that market? No he does not. Fat Freddy sets the market. Why?.... BECAUSE IT"S FAT FREDDY"S MARKET!.
 

It will be fine

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Exactly . You know when dmac1 has a property somebody is interested in purchasing., dmac1 doesn't have to go hat in hand to somebody who doesn't have a single dime invested in that asset and ask them for permission to sell that asset to the interested buyer. But, that is exactly what IWBF would have to do. Who ever heard of such a thing?
If the IRS ordered you to turn over your financial records they would have the rule of law and a court order backing that demand. Fat Freddy orders IWBF to turn over his financial records despite the fact that he has no legal standing to do so but he does it anyway BECAUSE HE CAN! Why because no contractor has the power to oppose him.

Now IWBF talks about selling his contract for in his own words "millions and millions of dollars" Now does IWBF set that market? No he does not. Fat Freddy sets the market. Why?.... BECAUSE IT"S FAT FREDDY"S MARKET!.
Wut? Buyers set the market. Currently there are lots of cash buyers looking to invest in the industry.
 

bacha29

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Wut? Buyers set the market. Currently there are lots of cash buyers looking to invest in the industry.
Sure when the price comes down they'll look and down seems to be the direction But at Fat Freddy's crib it's Fat Freddy's gig. He's just letting you hang out there..... And if you don't dance to his music.... See you later. Dmac1 doesn't have to do that. And that's what sets him apart from you. He has freedom to buy and sell as he wishes and doesn't have to answer to anybody. Too bad you can't do the same.

And that is what makes what he has a true business. Perhaps some day you ascend to his level of true enterprise autonomy . But you won't get there spending every day dancing to Fat Freddy's tune,
 

59 Dano

I just want to make friends!
I’m not sure they really understand how much money they threw away for their false sense of righteousness.
There's similar crap at Express. Some people insist on making their jobs harder for the sake of being "right."

I've mentioned it before in regards to the disciplinary process. Someone gets busted for something and pursues remedy via the GFT process. In most cases if the employee has a good record and the offense appears to be just a freak lapse in judgment then he can probably have the punishment reduced (if not voided) by fessing up, apologizing, etc. You'd be surprised at how often they choose to argue.
 

It will be fine

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Sure when the price comes down they'll look and down seems to be the direction But at Fat Freddy's crib it's Fat Freddy's gig. He's just letting you hang out there..... And if you don't dance to his music.... See you later. Dmac1 doesn't have to do that. And that's what sets him apart from you. He has freedom to buy and sell as he wishes and doesn't have to answer to anybody. Too bad you can't do the same.

And that is what makes what he has a true business. Perhaps some day you ascend to his level of true enterprise autonomy . But you won't get there spending every day dancing to Fat Freddy's tune,
You think in a global recession a company that posted 20-30% growth within 1 year has a price that’s going down? I mean you can follow FedEx stock to get a gauge of how transportation companies have been doing. Hint, they’re not going down.
 

It will be fine

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There's similar crap at Express. Some people insist on making their jobs harder for the sake of being "right."

I've mentioned it before in regards to the disciplinary process. Someone gets busted for something and pursues remedy via the GFT process. In most cases if the employee has a good record and the offense appears to be just a freak lapse in judgment then he can probably have the punishment reduced (if not voided) by fessing up, apologizing, etc. You'd be surprised at how often they choose to argue.
I have guys that argue about wearing masks when they enter businesses these days. They act like it’s a huge imposition and are surprised when the businesses call to complain. Then they argue with me about it. It’s beyond stupid.
 

59 Dano

I just want to make friends!
It’s called the Dunning-Kruger Effect, and blowhards like him and Dano are the best example of it I’ve ever seen.
I know exactly how smart I am, and how smart I am not. It takes that to be an effective leader in the workplace and to make a good living.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
I know exactly how smart I am, and how smart I am not. It takes that to be an effective leader in the workplace and to make a good living.
I have guys that argue about wearing masks when they enter businesses these days. They act like it’s a huge imposition and are surprised when the businesses call to complain. Then they argue with me about it. It’s beyond stupid.
Mutual Admiration Society, First and Second Officers.
 

bacha29

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You think in a global recession a company that posted 20-30% growth within 1 year has a price that’s going down? I mean you can follow FedEx stock to get a gauge of how transportation companies have been doing. Hint, they’re not going down.
Whether it goes up or down you ain't the guy who decides that. You keep spinning this false narrative about owning a "business".
It still comes down to the same inescapable reality.

With whom does all the power and control lie?

Everybody on this site including you knows that it's not you.
 

bacha29

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I know exactly how smart I am, and how smart I am not. It takes that to be an effective leader in the workplace and to make a good living.
The only time you ever lead anything was leading your one man delegation that went crawling back to Fat Freddy to ask for your job back.
 
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