twoweeled
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You may not have the same contract as ours, so apologies if not. We had the option of having another hourly help us with any packages or 70 lbs. Management was resistant to it, but we had that right.
The Official Preload Bashing Thread
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Wally
BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
These over 70's are a way of life now. Nobody is getting help.
twoweeled
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odds are fair to excellent, they'll forbid you taking pictures. Never tell them you take pics. When you consider that "methods" crap they talk about all the time, these pictures really let you know how much BS we were fed. The line up 30 inches, pull a package and deliver, while looking at your next stop and glancing at the floor. That was before everything was on your board. That was before you had a board!! LoL!
twoweeled
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If it's in your contract and you're not getting help, it's your own fault. That's what I meant by; both you and the preloader handled that package wrong.
Wally
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twoweeled
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I'm still assuming it's in your contract. I guess everyone has just thrown in the towel and are afraid to push. That's why all of you are delivering them, without help. After pushing, threats in the office, and letters - we agreed every morning I would go out to my car and point out the over 70 lbs packages. They pulled them all off my car, every morning. I didn't deliver them for years. I was the only one in my building who didn't deliver them, as far as I know. Guess what they did with those packages? They gave the packages to drivers who wouldn't say anything and just deliver them. Those drivers would normally say something like; Aahh, it's not so bad.
You and the preloader handled that package wrong.
twoweeled
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Part 2. I forgot. The local didn't want to push it either. I had to go to the IBT.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Apparently my route is named STEAL FROM ME.
I’m an off the street hire with a Class-A license, with 10 days in towards qualifying. These 10 days had been problematic. A high-end fashion retailer averages ~100 pieces daily to their return center. Some are airs (this I’ll never understand). The airs I paid my preloader $10 daily to put in a crate. This he did do.
He also went the extra mile and lightened my load by approximately 5 pieces a day, taking the hoodies home and selling them to friends. Keep in mind these retail for $150 average.
All the while I’m looking, looking, dismantling the truck while my training sup (great guy, served in the Marines God bless him) shouts “TIME IS NOT YOUR FRIEND. I TOLD YOU PREPARE YOUR TRUCK IN THE AM DO NOT BS WITH THE OTHER DRIVERS YOU NEED TO SORT YOUR TRUCK OUT COME IN AN HOUR EARLY.”
Well that preloader got a transfer! Attica Correctional Facility for Grand Larceny. Motherf*cker you, just what I need while I’m trying to make book. Precious time wasted looking foryou stole, and LP looking at me.
So in the 10 days that you have been here your preloader was charged, arrested, arraigned, tried, found guilty and sent to Attica??
4evapreloader
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What about the PPH increasing every year for absolutely no reason? What efficiencies has UPS implemented for the yearly increases in PPH? Absolutely none.
Hey, I can take it, it's the new people that can't. See threads about new hires quitting etc.
UnconTROLLed
perfection
Overall, the PAS has made the job easier for the preloader, especially new ones. However the new scanners (not sure if every building is doing it) are definitely a slowdown.
4evapreloader
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PAS in my building was literally 12 years ago.
IE out of touch dinosaurs have still increased PPH every year without anything new or improved. Why? (I don't expect a serious answer from IE or mgmt.)
UnconTROLLed
perfection
True about PAS.
What is the PPH expected on your preload?
Ours is 225/hr to my knowledge, which seems lower than others I have heard. And hasn't really changed in 5 + years.
4evapreloader
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I have no idea what is expected on our preload. I'll just say I'm above 225/hour. I just know the flow is faster than in previous years. 5 years ago I could run to the bathroom during breaks in the flow, now that is an unusual occurrence. Like I said, they expect more yet nothing has changed in terms of efficiency. I would love to hear why. Shareholder expectations?
UnconTROLLed
perfection
It sounds like UPS has your preload "tamed"
I would think it's like this. Corporate states 225 pph. Preload sups don't realize that number is there to schedule by and think it is what is required every day. So they push people out the door to make that number. After a year of doing this, records show they are averaging 235 pph. Even though the job hasn't actually been done, the hours aren't being used and must not be needed. New pph.
TearsInRain
IE boogeyman
PPH doesn't rise by default, if the operating plan doesn't change then the PPH would stay stagnant
in the building i've seen it rise, its due to SSLAW's, ARB's, bullfrogs, imprinters, or some other technological improvement, which makes sense
maybe you're thinking about NDPPH which applies to drivers, which is a far more complicated story, but if you meant inside PPH then i dunno what you're talking about
TearsInRain
IE boogeyman
also there is a huge difference between the buildings PPH and an individual work areas PPH, like for package car loaders
nothing has been done to speed up loading package cars, depending on the cube size the PPH expectations hover between a 180-230, and that hasn't changed in years
if your management tells you different, they're not following IE methods, but hey the boots on the ground know best right lol
nothing has been done to speed up loading package cars, depending on the cube size the PPH expectations hover between a 180-230, and that hasn't changed in years
if your management tells you different, they're not following IE methods, but hey the boots on the ground know best right lol
Indecisi0n
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It's common knowledge that preload is one of the easiest jobs at UPS. That's why it's a starting position at UPS.
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