Union lied about healthcare costs

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by browned out, Aug 14, 2019.

  1. browned out

    browned out Well-Known Member

    I am in the Central States Teamcare Plan.

    During the last contract negotiations the Hoffa/Taylor cronies were dishonest with the members. We were told there would be no increase in the amount we pay for healthcare.

    That was a flat out lie. I received my Teamcare Summary Plan for 2020. It states a $200 family deductible. I already paid $200 for 2019.

    The entire cost for my deductible for the 2013 to 2018 contract was $200 total. That's it.
    For the 2018 to 2023 contract my deductible cost is on pace to be $1000. (already paid $400) That extra $800 negates over 26 weeks of my .70 raise.

    For Part Timers, it is even worse. The extra $800 in deductibles essentially negates 1 year of .70 raises.

    $400>$200. $1000>$200. Hoffa/Taylor=Lying pieces of garbage.
     
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  2. upschuck

    upschuck Well-Known Member

    I believe you are talking apples and oranges, deductible is $100, and the maximum out of pocket is $1000, if I remember right. Two different things. This is per individual, family rates are double that.

    Same as it was last year.
     
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  3. browned out

    browned out Well-Known Member

    Same as it was last year is correct. But for the entire previous contract period, my family deductible was $200 Total.

    I have already paid $400 in deductibles only 2 years into this CBA.

    So, yes there is an increase in health care costs.
     
  4. upschuck

    upschuck Well-Known Member

    Not year over year it hadn't.
     
  5. UnconTROLLed

    UnconTROLLed perfection

    don't worry, it's the richest contract ever
     
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  6. Dough99

    Dough99 Member

    Union lied?? shocking!
     
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  7. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    Are you saying that you thought you would only have to pay an annual deductible on the last year of this contract, like we did during the last?

    ....as if "Pandora's Box" would somehow be closed, only to be reopened 4 years later???

    I see what you're trying to do, but seriously, you missed your mark in this thread.

    After all, you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube...
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  8. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Is their house on fire in that video?
     
  9. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    No, it' just a scented candle burning in the bathroom....for unknown reasons.
     
  10. browned out

    browned out Well-Known Member

    Obviously, I know it would not go back to a $200 deductible for only the last year of the CBA.

    The same as we all knew the 1 year, 2 year and 3 year progressions would never be reduced. Now it is a 4 year progression.

    The problem is that the Teamsters were not forthright with the members. I will be appealing my $200 deductible to TeamCare. Pissing into the wind for sure.

    Keeping the same great plan with no increased costs to us? $1000 instead of $200 is an increased cost. The cost for my family deductible for the 1st 4 years of the last CBA was $0.

    It negates a years worth of the .70 raise for the average part-timer.

    TeamCare and UPS are struggling to get by. Except they are not.

    Just quit lying to us Hoffa/Taylor/Teamcare/UPS. Never gonna happen.

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  11. Observer

    Observer Active Member

    The purpose of someone burning candles in the bathroom is "farts are deadly". Also I couldn't find the part where they stated if the employee dies, the spouse, etc. get coverage for 5 straight years. Is that still allowed?
     
  12. browned out

    browned out Well-Known Member

    Yes, the 5 year coverage is still included with the requirement that " If, during the two years prior to your death, you and your covered dependents used in network TeamCare providers exclusively for all your non emergency medical care..."
     
  13. Sissy Brown Short Shorts

    Sissy Brown Short Shorts Active Member

    I hate to be that guy...... but, still the best benefit package in the business. There’s people doing the same job as us making half us much with crappier insurance.
     
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  14. Kanovic

    Kanovic My job is fun

    I was actually thinking the same. $200 is peanuts compared what we make and what some people have to pay to just even get a check up. But what I know
     
  15. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    Please tell us about the status of all your NLRB charges.
     
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  16. MattM

    MattM Member

    I'm not in teamcare but another one. Every year it seems like we receive 2-3 revisions to our benefits. A year or two back deductibles started, and then went away what felt like halfway through the calendar year. Not once did we get to revote. It is what it is. I'm holding these health care contracts to 6-9 month intervals

    So unlike the larger union work contract, there appears to be major leeway for yearly or bi yearly healthcare changes v
     
  17. SameRightsForAll

    SameRightsForAll Active Member

    There is noone on this planet doing the same job as a full-time UPS driver. Not FedEx, not the post office, not Amazon, not Uber, zilch.
     
  18. Heavy Package

    Heavy Package Well-Known Member

    You drink the contract kool-aid and like it! This was by far the best contract ever. God Bless H&H for their wisdom and negotiating skills on our behalf.

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  19. Local612/3540

    Local612/3540 New Member

    You do understand the word ANNUAL? That means every year. Just like we get an ANNUAL RAISE. If you don't want to pay the $200 ANNUAL deductible for a FAMILY, don't use the insurance. That way it won't cost you any $$$.
     
  20. UnconTROLLed

    UnconTROLLed perfection

    What does that have to do with the point the OP made?