DriveInDriveOut
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It's getting pretty hard to find a Democrat these days. They're all "independents". Lol.
UPS Bows to Teamster Pressure, Negotiations to Resume Next Week
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Northern_newage
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If teamsters said they will not talk after July 5th then they agree to talk before the strike wouldn’t it be teamsters bending the knee? This tv show acting crap we are getting from our reps is getting really old. I don’t want politics I want results. I can’t be the only one that feels this way.
dogs.bite.me
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Refusing to talk would be an unfair labor practice.
O’Brien has said repeatedly that if UPS wants to continue talking, they just had to call.
Next Day Error
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Bluster and grandstanding are par for the course. The thing that matters in the end are results.
Analbumcover
ControlPkgs
I mean you don't need to lie to the FBI about anything when the DOJ meets with your lawyers and says:
Look, we know that Joe has classified documents sitting around in his garage and at the Penn Biden foundation. We'll be dropping by Joe's Rehoboth Beach house in a few days under the guise of symmetry so the Republicans can stop saying stuff like "SEE? they only do it to Trump!!!" Just make sure you've got all the documents in order and we'll appoint a special counsel that nobody will ever talk about and will never be covered by the news.
Don't worry, there won't be an FBI raid and we won't be rooting through anyone's underwear drawer.
Coldworld
60 months and counting
You see Sean’s body guard?? Mean looking mother.
govols019
You smell that?
When did he say that we would not talk after the 5th?
Analbumcover
ControlPkgs
I think he's referring to SOB's sort-of vague, sort-of backpedaled statement where he declared UPS needed to provide an LBFO by July 5th.... "or else."
anonymous23456
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No idea. It's just "Pay Up". lol
upschuck
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From all reports, they think the union wants to high of PT starting and catch up wages.
Figured but looking for a specific hang up.
Can’t see the company holding out and losing so much money/momentum over shorting part timers.
upschuck
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Depends on how much the difference is, I suppose. We shall see.
PT Car Washer
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But FT wages are alright? Talk about spending a Dollar to save a nickel.
upschuck
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That's the scuttlebutt.
He is aggressive…a good person to have in your corner. Like most things in todays world, pick a side.
Its_a_me
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The union is fighting about UPS PT wages so that it can go to Amazon's PT workers and say see look what becoming a union member can do for you. It's all about dues and membership ranks. Without that growth the union knows its long-term future will be an ever decreasing rank and file as automation claims more and more jobs.
Obviously, they can't do that when Amazon's PT workers are making more than UPS PT workers. Can talk about benefits till your blue in the face but turnover ensures a large majority don't even hit that mark. And talking about working conditions only goes so far.
The union knows that they have the leverage in this negotiation thanks to two things:
1) a 3.6% unemployment rate
2) a low labor force participation rate (boomers retiring, slower population growth, etc)
The unemployment rates in 25 states are currently at or within 0.1 percentage point of a record low and there is less of a pool to draw from. It's even lower when taking into account low wage workers as their is lower interest in low paying jobs because of inflation. Meaning there is market pressure on UPS to raise rates aside from the union's bargaining pressure.
So you can talk about too high PT increases all you want...but the union is not going to be put in a position where the company is giving PT'ers more than the contract demands because they can't find anybody and then they give bonuses to area A and not to area B. That's right out of the how to break a union playbook.
Obviously, they can't do that when Amazon's PT workers are making more than UPS PT workers. Can talk about benefits till your blue in the face but turnover ensures a large majority don't even hit that mark. And talking about working conditions only goes so far.
The union knows that they have the leverage in this negotiation thanks to two things:
1) a 3.6% unemployment rate
2) a low labor force participation rate (boomers retiring, slower population growth, etc)
The unemployment rates in 25 states are currently at or within 0.1 percentage point of a record low and there is less of a pool to draw from. It's even lower when taking into account low wage workers as their is lower interest in low paying jobs because of inflation. Meaning there is market pressure on UPS to raise rates aside from the union's bargaining pressure.
So you can talk about too high PT increases all you want...but the union is not going to be put in a position where the company is giving PT'ers more than the contract demands because they can't find anybody and then they give bonuses to area A and not to area B. That's right out of the how to break a union playbook.
anonymous23456
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Does Amazon have AC in the buildings and trailers? How bad are their conditions?
Russia probe which cost around $60 million, porn star. New York DA, etc. All these at the tax payers expense and they keep wasting our money focusing solely on Trump so he can't run again.
Anyone that doesn't see it as a sham is intentionally wearing blinders. At least criticize your own side as well and make it "look" unbiased but they can't even do that.
Which is why many are turning on the Woke SJW Far Left Establishment. It unfortunate RFK Jr espouses racial injustice and the myriad of other Left views.
PT Car Washer
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Most new warehouses are air conditioned.
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