UPS Internal Politics

[newupsers88]

I was wondering if any of you have seen the "politics" that I know are being played at UPS and if so, how to get around them and not be caught up in them. Where I am from they seem pretty prevelent and necessary to getting a raise or promotion.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Do your job.

Keep your nose clean.

Advancement within hourly rank is by seniority only.

Wait your turn like everyone else.

 

[Dis-organized Labor]

I was wondering if any of you have seen the "politics" that I know are being played at UPS and if so, how to get around them and not be caught up in them. Where I am from they seem pretty prevelent and necessary to getting a raise or promotion.

I don't think has ever been or ever will be a company, or any other entity, for that matter, where some "politics" are played out.
Everyone does it at home, work, everywhere. It just depends upon your description of "politics". "Social" and "Ethical" considerations are sometimes indistinguishable

 

[tieguy]

I was wondering if any of you have seen the "politics" that I know are being played at UPS and if so, how to get around them and not be caught up in them. Where I am from they seem pretty prevelent and necessary to getting a raise or promotion.

I'm assuming you're management since you reference a raise or promotion.

In management you can't get around some politics.
If you're looking to be promoted then you have to be able to sell yourself. Selling yourself is a form of politics.

 

[anonymous6]

I was wondering if any of you have seen the "politics" that I know are being played at UPS and if so, how to get around them and not be caught up in them. Where I am from they seem pretty prevelent and necessary to getting a raise or promotion.

Just do your job the best you can and don't get involved in office politics.

If that doesn't work , Quit.

 

[upsgrunt]

Selling yourself is a form of politics.

Wonder why prostitutes don't use this defense when arrested?

 

[brownrodster]

I was wondering if any of you have seen the "politics" that I know are being played at UPS and if so, how to get around them and not be caught up in them. Where I am from they seem pretty prevelent and necessary to getting a raise or promotion.

I just work hard and try to look better on paper than the average employee. Don't talk to customers or management. I just try to stay off the radar as much as I can. Politics are far removed from my UPS existence.

 

[Catatonic]

I remember a observation I heard back in my twenties.
Politics occurs once any group or organization increases in size of 3 or more individuals.
Never had an experience that contradicted his statement.
Even see a lot of politics here on Brown Cafe.

 

[Cezanne]

With that statement I am probadly the most unpolitical person on this site.

 

[bekbek1]

Politics is the way of life, just jump in with both feet. Know the material and professional ways to use the politics you are surrounded by and aim to one up. A great book to read to apply politics in your position and beyond is "Talking from 9 to 5" by Tanner, it will change the way you communicate with people.

 

[grgrcr88]

Find the person that will help you advance the fastest and shove your nose up his a**. Thats what everyone does around here!!

 

[Dis-organized Labor]

Find the person that will help you advance the fastest and shove your nose up his a**. Thats what everyone does around here!!

That's actually true for some people. I personally hate suck-ups and over achievers. It seems that there are some people that thrive on it.
I guess their self image needs a boost!

 

[rod]

Find the person that will help you advance the fastest and shove your nose up his a**. Thats what everyone does around here!!

Sad but soooooooooooooooooooo true

 

[randomUPSISer]

That's actually true for some people. I personally hate suck-ups and over achievers. It seems that there are some people that thrive on it.
I guess their self image needs a boost!

You hate over achievers? Or just suck ups? I'm not seeing why you would hate someone that's legitimately just really good at what they do.

 

[dilligaf]

You hate over achievers? Or just suck ups? I'm not seeing why you would hate someone that's legitimately just really good at what they do.

Legititamely good at what they do does not make it right. If one is good at their job then they don't need to be a kiss ass or suck up or over achiever. It's generally the ones that can't do their jobs that have to pursue other avenues to protect their jobs. IE sucking up, kissing ass, ever achieving.

 

[randomUPSISer]

Legititamely good at what they do does not make it right. If one is good at their job then they don't need to be a kiss ass or suck up or over achiever. It's generally the ones that can't do their jobs that have to pursue other avenues to protect their jobs. IE sucking up, kissing ass, ever achieving.

So if I'm REALLY good at software development, and its obvious to everyone in my work group that I am MUCH better at what I'm doing than anyone around me, in fact I'm able to do the same amount of work that 2 or even 3 people do, there is reason to hate me?

That's not "kissing ass" by doing that. Its simply being better at what your doing.

Now, if you mean "looking like I am better" while not actually being better, I can see your point.

You should be happy for the over achievers at UPS IMO. They are the ones that help cancel out all the UNDER-achievers to make the work groups end up average.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

The sad part is that the Union discourages over achieving and protects under achieving by promoting mediocrity.

 

[705red]

So if I'm REALLY good at software development,

Its obvious that you dont work here, so why comment? Are soft ware people would not know what we the drivers need to do this job if it smacked them square in the face!

Your software sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your probably the nut job that came up with the new diad, where we have to switch form letters to numbers!(abc) You ever try scanning 100 international asds before 1030 am and still make the rest of your stops on time? Didnt think so!

 

[Dis-organized Labor]

Legititamely good at what they do does not make it right. If one is good at their job then they don't need to be a kiss ass or suck up or over achiever. It's generally the ones that can't do their jobs that have to pursue other avenues to protect their jobs. IE sucking up, kissing ass, ever achieving.

Dilligaf had totally and completely understood and articulately my point..

Thanks Dilli!! You get a smiley!!

 

[Dis-organized Labor]

So if I'm REALLY good at software development, and its obvious to everyone in my work group that I am MUCH better at what I'm doing than anyone around me, in fact I'm able to do the same amount of work that 2 or even 3 people do, there is reason to hate me?

That's not "kissing ass" by doing that. Its simply being better at what your doing.

Now, if you mean "looking like I am better" while not actually being better, I can see your point.

You should be happy for the over achievers at UPS IMO. They are the ones that help cancel out all the UNDER-achievers to make the work groups end up average.

C'mon you know what I'm talking about!!!

If you're that good; we'll see that.....If you are not; and you pretend to be.......we'll see that too.

If I have to explain the difference......well