Western Pennsylvania Pension Cuts

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Brown287, May 11, 2019.

  1. Brown287

    Brown287 Im not the Mail Man!

  2. Brown287

    Brown287 Im not the Mail Man!

  3. Brown287

    Brown287 Im not the Mail Man!

    Tried tagging link and it wouldn’t let me. Look up the article and you’ll see it involves UPSers along with YRC and other companies.
     
  4. bowhnterdon

    bowhnterdon Active Member

    So is it true UPS current and retired will be losing part of their Pension? If so,where is the this Brotherhood the Teamsters speak of? How can UPS and the Teamsters justify some getting a great Pension and others losing their’s when we all work for the same Employer. Makes 0 sense..
     
  5. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    They justify it with one word...."Autonomy".
     
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  7. bowhnterdon

    bowhnterdon Active Member

    I have another word in mind...
     
  8. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    One of the issues from the 1997 strike, was the company wanting a UPS

    only pension. The "brotherhood" stood strong and rejected that idea.


    The affected members in the Central States fund aren't complaining now....
     
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  9. bowhnterdon

    bowhnterdon Active Member

    How does any of that help the Brothers in Western Pa? I would bet they would love an offer from UPS now..
     
  10. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    It doesn't.



    No doubt about that.

    But, from what I know about PA.... there are too much State politics involved

    for that to happen.
     
  11. bowhnterdon

    bowhnterdon Active Member

    I am afraid this is not the last cut UPS Teamsters will see..
     
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  12. Bubblehead

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  13. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    That's what happened with the Upstate NY fund.

    Members didn't vote....
     
  14. SameRightsForAll

    SameRightsForAll Active Member

    In 1997 many other companies joined in the fight (FedEx, Post Office, truckers, and more) and even then UPS stood its ground for the longest time even with major news coverage. Unless something way bigger happens in the future, a "1997" will never happen again. Hoffa will make sure of that.
     
  15. Bubblehead

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    So.....that justifies making a ballot that wasn't returned to be counted as a "Yes Vote"???

    Please explain that logic.



    ~Bbbl~™
     
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  16. burrheadd

    burrheadd KING Of GIFS

    This should be good
     
  17. Inthegame

    Inthegame Well-Known Member

    Oh really? FedEx didn't strike, the PO didn't strike, truckers didn't strike and more didn't strike.
    UPS employees did, for a little more than two weeks, not the "longest time".
    Were you alive in 1997, or did you read a book?
     
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  18. Inthegame

    Inthegame Well-Known Member

    Only if you can explain why losing part of ones retirement income is still not enough incentive to return a ballot.
    Apathy is now on steroids.
     
  19. For some reason people are just lazy. It's unbelievable how few voted on the contract.
     
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  20. Bubblehead

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    1. They are dead
    2. They have alzheimer's
    3. They aren't ambulatory
    4. Out of date mailing list as a result of direct deposit.

    That's 4 off of the top of my head,

    ....but how about staying on topic and address why a ballot that isn't returned is considered a to be a "Yes Vote", diluting the results of those who actually did vote?
     
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