Wow ORION really is that bad

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I've had it do that too but the other packages were ground. Nothing makes more sense than making 2 trips when it could have been done in one trip.

Orion breaks them up to make sure that you get all of your NDA delivered on time. I will always try to deliver all of the packages for a bulk stop when possible.

 

[Over 70]

Orion had me deliver businesses right before their pickups start. They got on me about compliance during peak on my commercial heavy route so I followed it 100% and so many people called and complained about getting theit delivery at 3pm.

Some were pretty nasty to me since I was new but I just smiled and told them I'm working as directed and gave them the number to call and complain.

The Dispatcher actually went through and made a bunch of adjustments so its kinda ok now but that's because it's much closers to what edd already was. Stupid. Edd is faster because everything is PAL'ed in order and area knowledge trumps the computer that thinks there's somewhere for me to turn around in the ghetto.

While it might take a few more miles to make exceptional service, it's cheaper than overtime!

 

[WorknLateHuh]

imagine if orion was used for ups flight plans lol

 

[Poop Head]

Orion breaks them up to make sure that you get all of your NDA delivered on time. I will always try to deliver all of the packages for a bulk stop when possible.

That's assuming that you can immediately find those 5,6,7 and 8 thousand pal'd stops it wants you to do first thing in the morning..
And that you leave the building on time lol

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

That's assuming that you can immediately find those 5,6,7 and 8 thousand pal'd stops it wants you to do first thing in the morning..
And that you leave the building on time lol

Bulk stops are rarely loaded on a shelf.

 

[Johney]

I had a bulk stop in 4 different locations

That's not due to Orion is it? Wouldn't that be EDD? I never used Orion, but I thought it was for delivering not loading.

 

[Johney]

imagine if orion was used for ups flight plans lol

Give it time it will be.

 

[Poop Head]

Bulk stops are rarely loaded on a shelf.

Yes??

 

[gman042]

Several times in past weeks. Orion has had me break off from a rural location and begin delivering a section that is 8 miles away. Deliver 6 stops and then go back out where I left off with. These are stops that could easily be delivered after my pickups on the way back to the center for air drop.
Orion is stupid....I consistently beat Orion on miles every week by running the route like I did before Orion.
The way I think Orion should have been implemented is take a few weeks of Orion Data gathered by the system and find the best solution that addresses most variations and stick with that. One solid trace to be followed every day. It would get UPS back into the groove of being a reliable service for businesses and the trucks would be loaded with the same stops in the same places every day.

 

[soberups]

If ORION ran a military campaign...the bombers would be ordered to drop napalm on their own troops in order to cut 4.3 miles off of the flight plan.

It really is that stupid.

 

[JackStraw]

Leave it to UPS to come up with a system that has you delivering whole neighborhoods in the reverse order of which it was loaded.

 

[Cementups]

Bulk stops are rarely loaded on a shelf.

Could you come to HARPA and please explain to my loaders???

 

[OrionsBitch]

Told my preloader to just put all NDA's in front of everything on the 1000 shelf. If it's not an envelope to put it on the floor under 2000. If the same stop has grounds I'll go searching for those where they're supposed to be but I don't like to mess around with scrambling to find 10:30 commits. I count my NDA's before I leave and this makes it easy.

Don't help them fix their problem if they aren't willing to take advice from their number one resource on doing this job....drivers

 

[El Correcto]

I Orion. It's like being in a new relationship everything is spontaneous and you don't really know what to expect or where it'll go.

 

[AlliSeeisBrown]

Don't help them fix their problem if they aren't willing to take advice from their number one resource on doing this job....drivers

Well, their problem quickly turns into my problem when I'm the driver and I have late airs. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Well, their problem quickly turns into my problem when I'm the driver and I have late airs. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Why is being over dispatched with air your problem? Just don't run any ground packages before all of your air is delivered.

 

[AlliSeeisBrown]

Why is being over dispatched with air your problem? Just don't run any ground packages before all of your air is delivered.

It's not and it shouldn't be, but they treat it as such.

 

[PT Car Washer]

It's not and it shouldn't be, but they treat it as such.

Just like misloads, breakdowns, weather, traffic, and poor management decisions are your problem. Of course they are your problem but you are powerless to change or correct anyone of them.

 

[Coldworld]

ORION is a case study in what happens when people who have never done a job come up with bright ideas about how to do a job.

That pretty much sums up ups as a whole.....

 

[Brownslave688]

I've been thinking lately that the Orion engineers accidentally typed in the command "maximize" mileage instead of "optimize". After being hounded about compliance, I decided to get as close to 100% each day as possible with the only breaks being to make service on business and for on time p/u's. Been making lots of money lately.

That is what I've done from day one. It's easy to remember when your response for why you did something is always. Just following Orion.