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[moldsporh]

The inward facing sensor (that you correctly say has a camera) can detect motion but the camera is deactivated because that is not something UPS uses

How can I explain this.....so you understand.

Ups and Lytx both state the "recording was disabled" please show me where they state the "camera" only was disabled. If I am wrong, then I am wrong, but they said specifically the "recording" was disabled....and I feel it was fell for.

Every camera (digital) has a sensor, every square is a rectangle.

They use the term "sensor" as a deflection to the actual meaning of what it is. When I get an alert of someone at my house on my Arlo door cam, do I say my sensor alerted me or the camera alerted me?

The sensor behind the camera lens doesn't do the math, the AI in the Lytx does all that in post processing. It has to use a camera whether or not the images are for internal use only or not.

This is what the "sensor" aka...camera..sees inside a cab. Now you tell me it's disabled. The Lytx cannot work unless it sees this.

Looks like a decent 1920x1080 video image that Lytx says it uses to process data for it's alerts.

This is what I believe is scrubbed from what UPS is sent. How would we know for sure.

Distracted Driving in 4 Dash Cam Videos

www.lytx.com

 

[moldsporh]

Thing is, I don't care if Lytx, UPS or whoever, can see a video of me chowing down a sandwich between stops...they cannot discipline me over it. I care that they actually deceived whoever to have them placed in the vehicles...because it's a camera in the vehicle facing the driver.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Thing is, I don't care if Lytx, UPS or whoever, can see a video of me chowing down a sandwich between stops...they cannot discipline me over it. I care that they actually deceived whoever to have them placed in the vehicles...because it's a camera in the vehicle facing the driver.

Ups cant see you from the inside camera. And they would be in legal hot water if they could. What the 3rd party does is above my pay grade.

“Lytx DriveCam can be configured to use its sensors and detect risky behaviors without actually recording the inside view of the vehicle
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This feature is called Risk ID Without Recording.“

Here's how it works and what it allows:

• AI-powered risk detection: Lytx uses Machine Vision + Artificial Intelligence (MV+AI) to identify potentially risky driving patterns and behaviors.
• Real-time in-cab alerts: Even without recording video, the system can provide audio alerts to drivers in real-time, helping them correct risky actions on the spot, according to Lytx.
• Focus on behavior detection: The MV+AI can detect patterns of distracted driving, such as cell phone use, improper seat belt use, inattentive driving, smoking, or eating and drinking.
• Metadata capture: Instead of storing video footage, the system captures data in the form of metadata, essentially recording the detected behaviors and their duration.
• Duration reporting: This allows fleet managers to see how much time a driver spends engaging in risky behaviors, providing valuable insights for improving safety.

Benefits of this mode:

• Real-time behavior correction: Alerts help drivers adjust their behavior immediately.
• Privacy considerations: Addresses concerns regarding recording in-cab video, especially for sensitive operations or in areas with strict privacy laws.

Sigh

 

[moldsporh]

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This feature is called Risk ID Without Recording.“

Yes, I saw that and thank you for the detailed description. Risk ID Without Recording alerts the driver of distracted behavior, but still leaves the door open for other options.

However, you left out:

Live Streaming​

● See what's happening in and around vehicles in near real time
Fleet Dash Cams
● Fleet managers can set the fleet camera system to live stream or record continual footage.

How do you view dash cam footage?

● You can log in to your Lytx account to monitor commercial dash cam video footage wherever you have a cellular connection, on your desktop computer, mobile phone, or tablet.

This is where your comments are correct on having the device properly configured to not record....but nothing about monitoring.


● Depending on how the fleet dash camera is configured to record, your footage may appear in your storage account as a number of short clips or a longer stream. Video can be saved to storage, downloaded, and shared as needed.


That's great it's not configured to record, but can still be monitored.


My whole gripe with this lies with the contract agreement of "NO INSIDE CAMERAS.

No cameras, no issues.

Based on that, UPS has the ability to follow your vehicle, or sit at home or at a desk, and watch the inside camera in real-time.....no recording necessary. Are they doing that? Might never know. Based on the language, it's avail to them and has NOT been deactivated.

How can the inside be monitored in live stream if there's no camera? That's a neat trick.

Sigh.

 

[UnionStrong]

Ups cant see you from the inside camera. And they would be in legal hot water if they could. What the 3rd party does is above my pay grade.

“Lytx DriveCam can be configured to use its sensors and detect risky behaviors without actually recording the inside view of the vehicle
.
This feature is called Risk ID Without Recording.“

Here's how it works and what it allows:

• AI-powered risk detection: Lytx uses Machine Vision + Artificial Intelligence (MV+AI) to identify potentially risky driving patterns and behaviors.
• Real-time in-cab alerts: Even without recording video, the system can provide audio alerts to drivers in real-time, helping them correct risky actions on the spot, according to Lytx.
• Focus on behavior detection: The MV+AI can detect patterns of distracted driving, such as cell phone use, improper seat belt use, inattentive driving, smoking, or eating and drinking.
• Metadata capture: Instead of storing video footage, the system captures data in the form of metadata, essentially recording the detected behaviors and their duration.
• Duration reporting: This allows fleet managers to see how much time a driver spends engaging in risky behaviors, providing valuable insights for improving safety.

Benefits of this mode:

• Real-time behavior correction: Alerts help drivers adjust their behavior immediately.
• Privacy considerations: Addresses concerns regarding recording in-cab video, especially for sensitive operations or in areas with strict privacy laws.

Sigh

Stop being obtuse, hating, naive, bastard!

 

[Thebrownblob]

Stop being obtuse, hating, naive, bastard!

He wants so bad to believe there’s a conspiracy.


Yep, all the managers can login and just watch it whenever they want and they’ve been able to keep this a secret from us!! For the last three years!!

Think of how stupid that sounds. SMH he really gives this management way too much credit I am around them enough to know they’re nowhere near smart enough to keep a secret like that.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Stop being obtuse, hating, naive, bastard!

 

[Thebrownblob]

Yes, I saw that and thank you for the detailed description. Risk ID Without Recording alerts the driver of distracted behavior, but still leaves the door open for other options.

However, you left out:

Live Streaming​

● See what's happening in and around vehicles in near real time
Fleet Dash Cams
● Fleet managers can set the fleet camera system to live stream or record continual footage.

How do you view dash cam footage?

● You can log in to your Lytx account to monitor commercial dash cam video footage wherever you have a cellular connection, on your desktop computer, mobile phone, or tablet.

This is where your comments are correct on having the device properly configured to not record....but nothing about monitoring.


● Depending on how the fleet dash camera is configured to record, your footage may appear in your storage account as a number of short clips or a longer stream. Video can be saved to storage, downloaded, and shared as needed.


That's great it's not configured to record, but can still be monitored.


My whole gripe with this lies with the contract agreement of "NO INSIDE CAMERAS.

No cameras, no issues.

Based on that, UPS has the ability to follow your vehicle, or sit at home or at a desk, and watch the inside camera in real-time.....no recording necessary. Are they doing that? Might never know. Based on the language, it's avail to them and has NOT been deactivated.

How can the inside be monitored in live stream if there's no camera? That's a neat trick.

Sigh.

I will say this one more time very slow for you.

UPS managers have no ability to record nor see any live or recorded video in your vehicle. Outside of the reflection from the front camera on the window, possibly catching something.. (which has happened lol)


You asked how it was able to give alerts without their being video and I showed you how now you’re delving into conspiracy territory. I cannot help you with that.

 

[UnionStrong]

I will say this one more time very slow for you.

UPS managers have no ability to record nor see any live or recorded video in your vehicle. Outside of the reflection from the front camera on the window, possibly catching something.. (which has happened lol)


You asked how it was able to give alerts without their being video and I showed you how now you’re delving into conspiracy territory. I cannot help you with that.

Sigh….

 

[burrheadd]

He wants so bad to believe there’s a conspiracy.


Yep, all the managers can login and just watch it whenever they want and they’ve been able to keep this a secret from us!! For the last three years!!
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Think of how stupid that sounds. SMH he really gives this management way too much credit I am around them enough to know they’re nowhere near smart enough to keep a secret like that.

Mine was always watching Chinese ping pong on YouTube no time for any Lytx BS

 

[Thebrownblob]

Mine was always watching Chinese ping pong on YouTube no time for any Lytx BS