Contract rumor.

[kingOFchester]

..Congress didn't know what was in it when it passed...

Like what was stated by Puke-losi "we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it"

Could you imagine if that is how our tentative contract will be presented. I can see hall saying to all of us "we have to sign the contract so that you can find out what is in it".

 

[Dracula]

Like what was stated by Puke-losi "we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it"

Could you imagine if that is how our tentative contract will be presented. I can see hall saying to all of us "we have to sign the contract so that you can find out what is in it".

Not good government. Bush started that BS with the Patriot Act. Remember: we have to act now, otherwise we might be attacked again. Next thing you know, no one read the damn thing, and our liberties took a kidney shot.

 

[Atomic_Smurf]

How's Obama handling that patriot act problem that he campaigned against? Certainly he's ended it by now & not expanded it to include drone strikes on Americans on American soil. Good thing we voted for change.

 

[twoweeled]

no rumor, just my opinion. UPS did not spend all that money on GPS/IVIS for nothing. They are doing away with as much management as possible. Short story - UPS HAS TO be able to discipline from the IVIS/GPS. Right now, with the contract language limiting electronics in discipline - they are unable to utilize the GPS/IVIS the way they have planned. If they have to have sup's doing rides, and spying, then they are defeating the purpose of downsizing management. If the plan to have a few supervisors constantly doing virtual ride-a-longs all day long is to work - UPS HAS TO BE ABLE TO DISCIPLINE OFF THE IVIS!!
I wonder if this whole crap with the healthcare is nothing more than a bargaining chip, for that contract necessity! The union is going to fight the electronics language, but what happens if it comes down to "We'll trade you the healthcare proposal, for the ability to discipline off the IVIS findings"! Am I alone in this thought?

 

[728ups]

How's Obama handling that patriot act problem that he campaigned against? Certainly he's ended it by now & not expanded it to include drone strikes on Americans on American soil. Good thing we voted for change.

my dear fellow,would you please be kind enough to direct me to information on US citizens being killed by Drone Strikes on US soil?

 

[Catatonic]

my dear fellow,would you please be kind enough to direct me to information on US citizens being killed by Drone Strikes on US soil?

Where have you been?
It was all over the news.
Killed an American out in New Mexico.

 

[kingOFchester]

Where have you been?
It was all over the news.
Killed an American out in New Mexico.

Probably busting his ass in a package car humping boxes. After all, that is how UPS made over 4 billion dollars. Just a guess.

 

[kingOFchester]

no rumor, just my opinion. UPS did not spend all that money on GPS/IVIS for nothing. They are doing away with as much management as possible. Short story - UPS HAS TO be able to discipline from the IVIS/GPS. Right now, with the contract language limiting electronics in discipline - they are unable to utilize the GPS/IVIS the way they have planned. If they have to have sup's doing rides, and spying, then they are defeating the purpose of downsizing management. If the plan to have a few supervisors constantly doing virtual ride-a-longs all day long is to work - UPS HAS TO BE ABLE TO DISCIPLINE OFF THE IVIS!!
I wonder if this whole crap with the healthcare is nothing more than a bargaining chip, for that contract necessity! The union is going to fight the electronics language, but what happens if it comes down to "We'll trade you the healthcare proposal, for the ability to discipline off the IVIS findings"! Am I alone in this thought?

I understand what you are saying and even buy into it a bit. But I think UPS would be cutting their own throats. I am sure a lot of drivers would be more careful not to break rules, and thus they would need drivers. UPS counts on the runners and gunners and cheaters to make their numbers, not that they won't hang them once they get into an accident.

 

[728ups]

Where have you been?
It was all over the news.
Killed an American out in New Mexico.

Hoax, I can never tell if you are taking the pisss but the individual in question Anwar-Al Awlki was bron in New Mexico but was killed in YEMEN . He was a senior talent recruiter and motivator who was involved in planning terrorist operations for the Islamist militant group al-Qaeda. I cant understand the 'outrage' over his death. If I had my druthers he'd have done the Big Shoe dance at the end of a rope after a short drop which IMO is the most fitting end for a traitor

 

[Limper]

Remember, Obama campaigned on the issue of closing down the military prison at Guantanamo Bay four years ago.
So if he kills all the enemy combatants in the field with drone strikes, there will be no one left alive to put in Cuba.

 

[FAVREFAN]

Did you see that on your W2? Singles in our center have been as high as $19K. If insurance didn't rise over the next 5 years that would be around $4k tax for just on that one employees plan. Costs increase over time. I remember when drivers toped out at $18hr & now it's $32hr. It's a long term destruction of our employer plans. Socialism is very patient.

So $19,000 for single? So $1,583 a month? On a UPS plan? What, is UPS paying a 300% mark up or something? O.k. Now I know to just ignore you.

 

[FAVREFAN]

What does your W-2 say? Box 12dd???

You have a hard time with numbers don't you........$5,600.
You will only be taxed on the amount over the $10,500(single) or $27,500(family). Not the whole amount.
Dude, you're making yourself look like a fool.
Do some reading.

 

[FAVREFAN]

12dd 14,900. That's for me and my two kids.

So you have $12,600 to go before you would even start to pay tax on the amount over $27,500 only.
The $10,500 and $27,500 number will go up every year starting in 2018 or 2019 as well.
Why spread the lies and mis-truths?
Now you know the truth.
You're fine.
Relax. Obama isn't coming to steal your babies candy!

 

[East coast navy]

CVS, based in Rhode Island, is taking this a step further by penalizing those who are not taking care of themselves to the tune of an extra $600/year.

This is what will happen in this country. We are the most unhealthiest counrty in the world. You can't put a law in place to make people eat healthy. You can't even not offer healthcare for not eating healthy, but it will come with a price. Bigger then others.

This is the road we will go down as Americans. It's the only way to make Obamacare work. If it doesn't go down that road, it will cripple the nation, and the other country's will own us.

 

[East coast navy]

That's likely discrimination and won't last long.

Sorry brother, to the courts not so much. Is it when airliners charge you for two or three tickets two buy the seats when are over weight. The courts didn't think so.

 

[Atomic_Smurf]

my dear fellow,would you please be kind enough to direct me to information on US citizens being killed by Drone Strikes on US soil?

The same president that was promising free birth control for everyone was hesitant to say he wouldn't use his presidential powers to order drone strikes on Americans on American soil. I guess it's a trade-off. In his defense Eric Holder did issue a letter after all the media attention saying essentially, they wouldn't do it unless it was really really important. While I don't expect to see Obama target people based on party affiliation, I am a bit concerned about Michelle's ability to order drone strikes in her "War on Fat Kids". I can't wait till Republicans are back in office & we get to pick who to drone strike.

 

[av8torntn]

So you have $12,600 to go before you would even start to pay tax on the amount over $27,500 only.
The $10,500 and $27,500 number will go up every year starting in 2018 or 2019 as well.
Why spread the lies and mis-truths?
Now you know the truth.
You're fine.
Relax. Obama isn't coming to steal your babies candy!

The problem is that the amount does go up based on inflation but health care costs rise at an amount greater than the rate of inflation.

Now you know the truth.

 

[728ups]

The same president that was promising free birth control for everyone was hesitant to say he wouldn't use his presidential powers to order drone strikes on Americans on American soil. I guess it's a trade-off. In his defense Eric Holder did issue a letter after all the media attention saying essentially, they wouldn't do it unless it was really really important. While I don't expect to see Obama target people based on party affiliation, I am a bit concerned about Michelle's ability to order drone strikes in her "War on Fat Kids". I can't wait till Republicans are back in office & we get to pick who to drone strike.

right........................

 

[Brownslave688]

my dear fellow,would you please be kind enough to direct me to information on US citizens being killed by Drone Strikes on US soil?

The same president that was promising free birth control for everyone was hesitant to say he wouldn't use his presidential powers to order drone strikes on Americans on American soil. I guess it's a trade-off. In his defense Eric Holder did issue a letter after all the media attention saying essentially, they wouldn't do it unless it was really really important. While I don't expect to see Obama target people based on party affiliation, I am a bit concerned about Michelle's ability to order drone strikes in her "War on Fat Kids". I can't wait till Republicans are back in office & we get to pick who to drone strike.

Your the super extreme right winger that give republicans a bad name. I'm not thrilled about Obama but your so over the top it's comical.

 

[Atomic_Smurf]

The problem is that the amount does go up based on inflation but health care costs rise at an amount greater than the rate of inflation.

Now you know the truth.

True that. I'm thinking it goes up around 1.5% per year while health insurance premiums have been increasing 6-8% per year.