Dearest the other side
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Catatonic
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Did not know that was his angle...he has certainly played the role very well!
Exactly. now you guys are getting it, too bad its too little too late.
The prom is about over, no time to get a new dress or tux, its last dance time and all you can do is hug each other and wish it would last longer, but in short time it will be over.
When you ALL were slamming Obama on this board on everything from being a muslim, a pal of Bill Ayers, a hate america freak, a tax & spend freak, a socialist, a communist, a terrorist, a lunatic, a supporter of Al Qeada, a supporter of Hamas, a supporter of terrorism in general, a supporter of hate speech and an embracer of hate america rhetoric...
You all were cool with it.
However, the "other side" needed its representation and I am providing it without "attacking" any of you personally.
Why is it, that when your side is bombarding the other side with "non-sense", the other side just has to take it?
Political non-sense has been the order of the day for 9 months now from the RNC side of the argument.
But, unlike John Kerry, OBAMA will NOT be swift boated by the RNC, McCain or any of you.
We will fight back and use "your" tactics to level the playing field.
So far, not a SINGLE "slam" has been effective against OBAMA.
Today, OBAMA drew a crowd of an estimated 100 thousand people in a Red State. (Missouri (11) Obama +2.5 -2008 Bush +7.2- 2004
John Kerry could never do this, something must be in the air for this many people to take an opposing side to the Obama haters.
Or maybe its you guys who are missing something??? I dont know?
Either way, This time around, its McCain and Palin who will get "swift boated" out of the White House. You will know what that feels like on November 5th, 2008
I see the best of the best is responding now.
Thank you for the crass remarks.
I know im getting to you.
Thank you for the crass remarks.
I know im getting to you.
Catatonic
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No drewed, she is entertaining.
Bad Gas!
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Here is a quick look into 3 former Fannie Mae executives who have brought down Wall Street.
Franklin Raines was a Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Fannie Mae. Raines was forced to retire from his position with Fannie Mae when auditing discovered severe irregulaties in Fannie Mae's accounting activities. At the time of his departure <http://www.wsj.com/> The Wall Street Journal noted, ' Raines, who long defended the company's accounting despite mounting evidence that it wasn't proper, issued a statement late Tuesday conceding that 'mistakes were made' and saying he would assume responsibility as he had earlier promised. News reports indicate the company was under growing pressure from regulators to shake up its management in the wake of
findings that the company's books ran afoul of generally accepted accounting principles for four years.' Fannie Mae had to reduce its surplus by $9 billion. Raines left with a 'golden parachute valued at $240 Million in benefits. The Government filed suit against Raines when the depth of the accounting scandal became clear.
http://housingdoom.com/2006/12/18/fannie-charges/ http://housingdoom.com/2006/12/18/fannie-charges/ . The Government noted, 'The 101 charges reveal how the individuals improperly manipulated earnings to maximize their bonuses, while knowingly neglecting accounting systems and internal controls, misapplying over twenty accounting principles and misleading the regulator and the public. The Notice explains how they submitted six years of misleading and inaccurate accounting statements
and inaccurate capital reports that enabled them to grow Fannie Mae in an unsaf and unsound manner.' These charges were made in 2006. The Court ordered Raines to return $50 Million Dollars he received in bonuses based on the miss-stated Fannie Mae profits.
Tim Howard - Was the Chief Financial Officer of Fannie Mae. Howard 'was a strong internal proponent of using accounting strategies that would ensure a 'stable pattern of earnings' at Fannie. In everyday English - he was cooking the books. The Government Investigation determined that, 'Chief Financial Officer, Tim Howard, failed to provide adequate oversight to key control and reporting functions within Fannie Mae,' On June 16, 2006, Rep. Richard Baker, R-La., asked the Justice Department to investigate his allegations that two former Fannie Mae executives lied to Congress in October 2004 when they denied manipulating the mortgage-finance giant's income statement to achieve management pay bonuses. Investigations by federal regulators and the company's board of directors since concluded that management did manipulate 1998 earnings to trigger bonuses. Raines and Howard resigned under pressure in late 2004. Howard's Golden Parachute was estimated at $20 Million!
Jim Johnson - A former executive at Lehman Brothers and who was later forced from his position as Fannie Mae CEO. A look at the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight's May 2006 <http://www.ofheo.gov/media/pdf/FNMSPECIALEXAM.PDF> report on mismanagement and corruption inside Fannie Mae, and you'll see some interesting things about Johnson. Investigators found that Fannie Mae had hidden a substantial amount of Johnson's 1998 compensation from the public, reporting that it
was between $6 million and $7 million when it fact it was $21 million.' Johnson is currently under investigation for taking illegal loans from Countrywide while serving as CEO of Fannie Mae. Johnson's Golden Parachute was estimated at $28 Million.
WHERE ARE THEY NOW?
FRANKLIN RAINES? Raines works for the Obama Campaign as Chief Economic Advisor .
TIM HOWARD? Howard is also a Chief Economic Advisor to Obama
JIM JOHNSON? Johnson hired as a Senior Obama Finance Advisor and was selected to run Obama's Vice Presidential Search Committee
IF OBAMA PLANS ON CLEANING UP THE MESS - HIS ADVISORS HAVE THE EXPERTISE - THEY MADE THE MESS IN THE FIRST PLACE. Would you trust the men who
tore Wall Street down to build the New Wall Street ?
Franklin Raines was a Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Fannie Mae. Raines was forced to retire from his position with Fannie Mae when auditing discovered severe irregulaties in Fannie Mae's accounting activities. At the time of his departure <http://www.wsj.com/> The Wall Street Journal noted, ' Raines, who long defended the company's accounting despite mounting evidence that it wasn't proper, issued a statement late Tuesday conceding that 'mistakes were made' and saying he would assume responsibility as he had earlier promised. News reports indicate the company was under growing pressure from regulators to shake up its management in the wake of
findings that the company's books ran afoul of generally accepted accounting principles for four years.' Fannie Mae had to reduce its surplus by $9 billion. Raines left with a 'golden parachute valued at $240 Million in benefits. The Government filed suit against Raines when the depth of the accounting scandal became clear.
http://housingdoom.com/2006/12/18/fannie-charges/ http://housingdoom.com/2006/12/18/fannie-charges/ . The Government noted, 'The 101 charges reveal how the individuals improperly manipulated earnings to maximize their bonuses, while knowingly neglecting accounting systems and internal controls, misapplying over twenty accounting principles and misleading the regulator and the public. The Notice explains how they submitted six years of misleading and inaccurate accounting statements
and inaccurate capital reports that enabled them to grow Fannie Mae in an unsaf and unsound manner.' These charges were made in 2006. The Court ordered Raines to return $50 Million Dollars he received in bonuses based on the miss-stated Fannie Mae profits.
Tim Howard - Was the Chief Financial Officer of Fannie Mae. Howard 'was a strong internal proponent of using accounting strategies that would ensure a 'stable pattern of earnings' at Fannie. In everyday English - he was cooking the books. The Government Investigation determined that, 'Chief Financial Officer, Tim Howard, failed to provide adequate oversight to key control and reporting functions within Fannie Mae,' On June 16, 2006, Rep. Richard Baker, R-La., asked the Justice Department to investigate his allegations that two former Fannie Mae executives lied to Congress in October 2004 when they denied manipulating the mortgage-finance giant's income statement to achieve management pay bonuses. Investigations by federal regulators and the company's board of directors since concluded that management did manipulate 1998 earnings to trigger bonuses. Raines and Howard resigned under pressure in late 2004. Howard's Golden Parachute was estimated at $20 Million!
Jim Johnson - A former executive at Lehman Brothers and who was later forced from his position as Fannie Mae CEO. A look at the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight's May 2006 <http://www.ofheo.gov/media/pdf/FNMSPECIALEXAM.PDF> report on mismanagement and corruption inside Fannie Mae, and you'll see some interesting things about Johnson. Investigators found that Fannie Mae had hidden a substantial amount of Johnson's 1998 compensation from the public, reporting that it
was between $6 million and $7 million when it fact it was $21 million.' Johnson is currently under investigation for taking illegal loans from Countrywide while serving as CEO of Fannie Mae. Johnson's Golden Parachute was estimated at $28 Million.
WHERE ARE THEY NOW?
FRANKLIN RAINES? Raines works for the Obama Campaign as Chief Economic Advisor .
TIM HOWARD? Howard is also a Chief Economic Advisor to Obama
JIM JOHNSON? Johnson hired as a Senior Obama Finance Advisor and was selected to run Obama's Vice Presidential Search Committee
IF OBAMA PLANS ON CLEANING UP THE MESS - HIS ADVISORS HAVE THE EXPERTISE - THEY MADE THE MESS IN THE FIRST PLACE. Would you trust the men who
tore Wall Street down to build the New Wall Street ?
Did you miss the part where this has no relevance on the election???
Did you miss the part where McCains campaign manager has taken the most money from each fannie mae and freddie mac?
Your a little late to the party and this present was opened already.
Catatonic
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That's what FDR did when he appointed Joseph Kennedy to clean up the mess after 1929 crash.
Use a crook to catch a crook!
Catatonic
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I guess...I assumed the other side was the female side.
In my house (or hers, I'm not sure) "The Other Side" is always female.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
I'm still pissed Kenneth Lay did not go to jail!!!
1989
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Dude looks like a lady
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tieguy
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yep she used to post here, Was banned once , probably go over board soon and get banned again.
Only 20,000 of them will actually go to the polls, but ACORN will help them vote five times apiece, so it will seem like 100,000.
diesel96
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I bet you never change the dial from AM right wing conservative talk shows and Fox News. FYI, This is not Hannity's America. You felt the need to dedicated a thread to attack a poster with a different point of view than yours. I see "The Other Side" is getting under your skin as well as others, without personal attacks. Yet, when push comes to shove, because of lack of an inteligent retort to The Other Sides posts, there are those of you who stray from the issue and try to demonize the character.
on carrying on the Carl Rove legacy, which Team McCain/Palin is displaying with their recent attack dog politics.I know you claim to be a Libertarian, but here you take both sides of the issue on whether TOS is a male or female. Usally you guys take niether position and when the results are revealed, you say "I told you so"
It is more likely that an individual will be struck by lightning than he will impersonate another voter at the polls.
What we're seeing is the RNC mfg of a crisis, and attempts to smear Sen. Obama with it.
It gives you an excuse should you lose or if there's a contested outcome of the election.
Most problems were caused by things like technological glitches, clerical errors or mistakes made by voters and by election officials.
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