We all know that you never give your best offer right off he bat in any negotiations. I'm just looking ahead and fearful of people getting fooled by UPS " upping " the offer by taking away some of the crap off the edges of this first proposal. I think it was just their plan all along to make such a ridiculously terrible offer that when they remove some of the things " they wanted " ( didn't really want; just wanted to use sleight of hand to misdirect us ) we will jump all over it being tricked into thinking that they are now offering a good contract. Don't be fooled two or three months down the road; They offered us a big , steaming pile of dog chit on a platter. Just because they come back and tweak it by offering a couple pieces of bread, that just changes the offer from a steaming pile of dog crap on a platter to a chit sandwich that you can now take with you and eat on the run (prob while driving cuz they gave a 13 hour dispatch on an 8 hour request) .