Heads up letter from the Union about possible strike

[cosmo1]

Jim Casey drug me out of a bar and threw my butt on a delivery bicycle

So it's all your fault, you old sumbitch.

 

[Brownslave688]

I'm not someone who would just take any negative thing the company tries to pull on us. I'm just trying to figure out what you guys expect. The job is what it is. It can't be made into sunshine and lollipops. I've been with UPS for 10 years and the driver hours haven't changed in my center. Why is it such a problem now? We have routes that have 7pm p/u's. It is what it is.

When I read some of you and other's posts, I think you've completely lost touch with reality. You've been with UPS too long.

I've only been here about 10 years. It's changed a ton in those 10 years.


Used to start at 8:15 and regularly be off before 5:15.

Now we start at 9 and I'm rarely off before 7.

 

[40 and out]

Wouldn't it be interesting if drivers delivering boxes who are in America's top 12% of income earners were to strike. I don't think that would go over too well with the bottom 88%.

It went over quite well in 1997. Vast majority of bottom 88% were behind us then. Why would it be different now? If there is a strike it won't be over pay just as it wasn't over pay then.

 

[MendozaJ]

Handing out written information inside the building involving work stoppages is a clear violation of the contract. Your BA and stewards should know better. You are being steered in the wrong direction.

 

[rod]

Pay no attention to me I just like to throw gas on fires. I don't give a crap one way or the other if you strike or not. I will say though that from what I read on here about everybody being afraid to strike------grease up --- UPS has big plans for you and the contract and you ain't going to like it. So much for all the hard work and effort that went into getting drivers where the are today pay and benefit wise. As for part time---until you get your counterparts organized as a voting block--you're friend'ed with a capitol friend..

 

[Brownslave688]

I did a whole variety of jobs for 15 years before driver. Landscaping is way worse than UPS driver (unless it's just mowing grass). Last job had me crawling around on the floor 2/3rd's of the day. Torture for 1/3rd the pay. Retail? Work every weekend, most holidays. Crappy hours, yo-yo scheduling.

I did landscaping for two years before I started driving.


Cake walk compared to driving.



And RAIN DAYS!!!

 

[JL 0513]

I've only been here about 10 years. It's changed a ton in those 10 years.


Used to start at 8:15 and regularly be off before 5:15.

Now we start at 9 and I'm rarely off before 7.

10 years ago in my center routes still all came in 6:15 - 8:30pm. Same today. Only difference we start later now which would mean hours are down. I know because I worked the unload on local sort for over 5 years starting in 2007.

 

[Brownslave688]

10 years ago in my center routes still all came in 6:15 - 8:30pm. Same today. Only difference we start later now which would mean hours are down. I know because I worked the unload on local sort for over 5 years starting in 2007.

Like we've said. Everywhere is different.


One way to spin it too would be total pieces.


What were the average pieces delivered by driver in 2005 compared to now?

 

[rod]

So it's all your fault, you old sumbitch.

What do you mean my fault. Back then I had to make 5 delivers a day. I hear things have changed a bit.

 

[cosmo1]

I did landscaping for two years before I started driving.


Cake walk compared to driving.



And RAIN DAYS!!!

Climbing and trimming 30+ trees a day for power lines with hand tools?

Still easier than package.

 

[olroadbeech]

you should always be prepared.

"expect the unexpected"

 

[cosmo1]

What do you mean my fault. Back then I had to make 5 delivers a day. I hear things have changed a bit.

You didn't have ORION.

Much easier.

 

[rod]

Like we've said. Everywhere is different.


One way to spin it too would be total pieces.


What were the average pieces delivered by driver in 2005 compared to now?

Before I retired my route consisted of an average of 100 stops-150 miles- 200 packages-19 pick-up stops with about a 100 pkgs picked up. That was a 9.5 day. The day I retired I heard the new driver had a major overhaul on that route and those numbers were jacked up.

 

[dookie stain]

Layoff the crack

What

 

[dookie stain]

Layoff the crack

No lie

 

[JL 0513]

I did landscaping for two years before I started driving.


Cake walk compared to driving.



And RAIN DAYS!!!

No way. Digging holes, weeding, hedge trimming, chainsawing tree trunks, etc. You realize that we sit on our butts half the day, and walk the other half, right?

 

[rod]

You didn't have ORION.

Much easier.

No we didn't but we had to fight off the Indian attacks.

 

[Brownslave688]

No way. Digging holes, weeding, hedge trimming, chainsawing tree trunks, etc. You realize that we sit on our butts half the day, and walk the other half, right?

I do all of those things for fun still on the weekends.

 

[babboo25]

Just out of curiosity, how many of you in this thread were working for UPS in 1997?

I was

 

[JL 0513]

I do all of those things for fun still on the weekends.

Yes, me too for free. Ahh, home ownership. And when I am, I wish I was at work instead.